Internet Explorers

A weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences.

How Valuable Are Your Memories? (feat. RAC) | Internet Explorers Ep. 77 04/26/2025

How Valuable Are Your Memories? (feat. RAC) | Internet Explorers Ep. 77 $ZORA is here, memecoins are changing, CT is mad—but what does it all mean? This episode unpacks Zora's recent token launch, explores the burdens of governance, and dives deep into how "just-for-fun" tokens might be redefining crypto markets, if not the very concept of "value." Later, special guest RAC (André Allen Anjos) joins to discuss Memory Protocol, the ambitious new identity and data-sharing layer he’s co-founded, which promises to revolutionize how we manage and monetize our digital identities—starting with the music industry. This episode unpacks: $ZORA token launch and market reactions The difference between governance and memecoins Brands taking their identities "public" through tokens Exploring tokenized information markets with Politiswap RAC’s deep dive into Memory Protocol Why data portability matters for creators and users The intersection of identity, markets, and crypto incentives How Fungi’s AI bot optimizes DeFi yield Launching apps and social dynamics onchain Future of decentralized identity and monetization Chapters: 00:00 — Intro: Discussing incentives for app collaboration 05:26 — Zora token launch and airdrop reactions 10:09 — Memory Protocol: Building data sharing infrastructure 16:20 — Factory fm: A Letterboxd for music 22:27 — Incentivizing data sharing between applications 28:30 — Farcon event announcement and Kamigotchi launch 34:17 — Oscillator: Building products for music industry 40:25 — Memory Protocol: Connecting apps and reducing friction 46:20 — Bootstrapping networks and proving use cases 55:34 — Fungi: AI-powered DeFi yield optimization agent 1:00:00 — Closing thoughts and upcoming content -- Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us⁠ live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/36318885

This Founder's App Was Going Nowhere. Now It's #1 | Internet Explorers Ep. 76 04/19/2025

This Founder's App Was Going Nowhere. Now It's #1 | Internet Explorers Ep. 76 Nick Confrey’s first app was all promise, no traction—until one bold pivot changed everything. This week on Internet Explorers, the crew starts with the messy fallout from Base’s content coin launch—an experiment in onchain media that spiraled into backlash, infighting, and meme coin chaos. But the real story comes in the second half, when Nick joins the show to share how he turned a floundering generalized social platform into Tome—a viral BookTok hit that hit #1 in the App Store’s books category. Nick walks us through his journey from building for “everyone” to focusing on one deeply passionate community. Along the way, he breaks down why Tome rejects ad-based business models, how it’s building creator-first monetization, and what crypto-native lessons helped shape a product for people who don’t care about crypto at all. If you’ve ever wondered how to pivot toward product-market fit—or how to go viral without selling out—this episode is for you. This episode unpacks: Why Base’s content coin launch blew up on Crypto Twitter The cultural clash between meme coins and new creator tools How one mechanism flaw tanked Base’s experiment Why Rodeo’s TikTok virality didn’t translate into growth Nick’s early app failure and what wasn’t working How focusing on BookTok turned Tome into a breakout success The philosophy behind Tome’s anti-ad, user-supported model How Tome leverages intrinsic motivation over speculation What crypto can learn from Tome’s mainstream product strategy Why the best crypto apps might never mention crypto at all Chapters: 00:27 — Jess Returns From Vacation 01:14 — Twitter Meltdown Recap 03:44 — Base Launches Content Coin 07:06 — Mechanism Fail & Blowback 08:55 — Cynicism Killing Innovation 13:55 — What Meme Coins Reveal 20:41 — Outro: Base Drama Ends 21:44 — Rodeo’s Viral Flop 25:52 — Incentives vs. Organic Behavior 29:07 — Guest Intro: Nick Confrey 30:52 — The Pivot to BookTok 36:23 — How Tome Went Viral 40:29 — Monetizing Without Ads 43:01 — Incentives for Creativity 46:41 — Mini Apps & Remix Culture 49:34 — Growing Niche to Platform 54:35 — Tome’s Puzzle Launch 57:22 — Final Thoughts & Shoutouts 58:47 — Cozy Social, Big Lessons 01:02:29 — Crypto Growth Beyond Crypto 01:05:33 — Closing Vibes Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us⁠ live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/36227590

The Harsh Reality of Onchain Games | Internet Explorers Ep. 75 04/12/2025

The Harsh Reality of Onchain Games | Internet Explorers Ep. 75 What if a game you built today could still be played a thousand years from now? Onchain gaming is one of the hardest bets in crypto — and Kamigotchi is taking a radically different path to survive. Lethe joins to break down why most projects fail, and how building the simplest possible game could create a world that lasts for centuries. Later, Jaimin from Beans joins to share how they’re turning Internet speculation into a daily game of discovery. Plus: the future of three-person unicorns, AI-native teams, tokenized subforums, and how Plastic Labs could reshape memory and personalization for AI apps. This episode unpacks: How Plastic Labs is leveling the AI playing field with user memory tech Why AI-native startups are scaling massive impact with tiny teams How tokenized subforums like Subs could reinvent online communities The case for three-person unicorns in the AI era Kamigotchi’s vision: a decentralized MMORPG that lasts for centuries Technical hurdles in building fully onchain games today Why Celestia and Initia were chosen to launch yominet Beans’ launch strategy: daily token drops tied to internet sites How Beans plans to rival algorithmic content feeds Lessons from shipping speculative crypto apps in today’s market Chapters: 00:19 — Internet Explorers Kicks Off: Topics Preview 02:33 — Plastic Labs $5.35M Raise and AI Personalization 06:04 — Tokenized Forums: Exploring Subs.Fun 10:39 — The Rise of Three-Person Unicorns 17:22 — Lethe Joins: Kamigotchi’s Origins and Vision 21:55 — Why Building Onchain Games Is Brutally Hard 23:52 — Designing Kamigotchi: Simplicity or Death 28:28 — Launching on Initia and Celestia 32:12 — Building a Game Studio for the Long Term 36:35 — Jaimin Joins: Beans and Speculating on Internet Attention 43:05 — Inside the Beans Token Launch Mechanism 47:04 — The Bigger Vision: Beans as a New Social Layer 55:36 — Building in Solana vs EVM 59:08 — Farcaster Miniapp Spotlight Announcement 1:01:15 — Closing Thoughts and Sign-Off Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us⁠ live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/36104095

Most Startups Misunderstand Incentives feat. Joseph Al-Chami | Internet Explorers Ep. 74 04/05/2025

Most Startups Misunderstand Incentives feat. Joseph Al-Chami | Internet Explorers Ep. 74 The future of crypto might not be bots, bulls**t, and broken incentives — but first, we have some serious receipts to go through. This week we are joined by researcher Joseph Al-Chami for a wide-ranging dive into the biggest consumer crypto stories of the week — and an honest reckoning with how points systems, appcoins, agentic investors, and open social graphs are actually playing out. From Circle’s IPO drama to AI SEO strategies, we’re connecting the dots on what’s really happening across consumer crypto, AI, and internet culture. We kick off with a quickfire rundown of Appcoins, AI discoverability, and the death spiral of poorly launched tokens, before moving into a deep, revealing conversation with Joseph about the hidden dangers behind points-based growth strategies — and why blind copying Duolingo-style gamification just doesn’t work for crypto projects. This episode unpacks: Ohara’s new Appcoin model and the future of vibe coding AI SEO tactics and why discoverability is about to change forever Why launching a token will not save you The rise and potential fall of Circle’s stablecoin empire The launch of LensChain and the mini-app revolution on Farcaster How agentic investors are creating novelty arbitrage (for now) Open social graphs vs. corporate controlled platforms Why vanity metrics are destroying crypto ecosystems A real breakdown of why “points and quests” mostly attract bots How to build loyalty systems that actually work Chapters: 0:00 — Intro and a Brand New Home 00:39 — Live Show Chaos and Vibe Check 01:50 — Market Sentiment and Real Builders 03:09 — Introducing Joseph Al-Chami and Topics 04:53 — Appcoins, Vibe Coding, and Token Models 08:11 — AI SEO and Discoverability Shifts 12:55 — Why Launching Tokens Can Fail 16:11 — Circle’s IPO Drama and Fallout 19:38 — LensChain, Open Social, and Mini-Apps 24:16 — Farcaster Airdrops and Notification Burnout 26:51 — Rise of Agentic Investors and Novelty 29:09 — “It’s All Base’s Fault” Twitter Meltdown 30:14 — Credible Neutrality and Blockchain Trust 32:59 — Joseph’s Research on Points Farming 39:48 — How to Build Real Loyalty Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us⁠ live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/36019205

The Internet Loves Ghibli... But Not Enough to Pay? | Internet Explorers Ep. 73 03/30/2025

The Internet Loves Ghibli... But Not Enough to Pay? | Internet Explorers Ep. 73 Ghibli memes took over the internet. But the studio captured none of the value. In this week’s Internet Explorers, Jess and Josh break down how OpenAI’s viral Ghibli-style image launch became a masterclass in attention-hijacking — and why crypto, NFTs, and tokens still fail to help artists and IP holders capture their fair share. From meme coin spikes to the role of protocol design, they unpack how this moment exposed crypto’s biggest cultural opportunity (and blind spot). Later, Priyanka from Tribute Labs joins to debut ADIN, their new AI-native investment DAO. The crew explores whether AI agents can outperform VCs, how 10% carry for deal submissions flips sourcing on its head, and why this might be the most compelling new DAO model since 2021. Plus: buy-and-burn backlash, Solana’s Nikita play, and the accelerating weirdness of AI-powered internet culture. This episode unpacks: OpenAI’s viral Ghibli-style image generation Attention, IP, and meme-driven value gaps Can crypto help creators capture cultural upside? Buy-and-burn vs. dividend token models When ownership still matters in token design Tribute Labs introduces ADIN, an AI VC DAO AI agents evaluating early-stage investments Deal flow incentives with 10% carry for submission Can AI replace human VC decision-making Nikita Bier joins Solana to fix crypto UX Chapters: 0:00 — Intro and a classic throwback 4:07 — Crypto the Game segment: Upcoming content and winners 6:05 — Studio Ghibli style image launch impact 9:26 — Valuation of IP through crypto tokens 11:43 — Tokenization and IP rights discussion 15:04 — Cultural Dialogue and Internet Theory insights 18:21 — Network dynamics and virality discussion 20:13 — Buy and Burns impact analysis 22:55 — Stablecoins and monetary supply nuances 26:52 — Dividends and market expectations implications 30:38 — Consumer-facing infrastructure debate 34:02 — Tribute's role in investment DAOs 36:51 — DAO structure and Aiden's role 40:54 — Project types and data input discussion 43:05 — Founder tools and improvement recommendations 46:35 — Emergent projects and agent opinions Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us⁠ live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/35918490

How to Solve Crypto’s Real Problem | Internet Explorers Ep. 72 03/22/2025

How to Solve Crypto’s Real Problem | Internet Explorers Ep. 72 The crypto industry got a serious vibe check this week—and it feels like we’re hitting an inflection point. Solana’s latest ad campaign sparked a massive backlash, raising questions about the values shaping the space. Was it just a misfire, or does it signal a deeper cultural shift? At the same time, outdated token models are finally being called out as the industry moves past high-FDV, low-float launches that leave investors holding the bag. We also dive into the rise of stablecoins in fintech, how Privy is making crypto onboarding seamless, and why crypto’s UX problem is solved—even though funding wallets is still a nightmare. Plus, Disney hires a crypto OG, vanity metrics are finally getting exposed, and we debate whether token launches are evolving or just recycling the same old grifts. If you want to know where crypto is actually headed beyond the hype, this episode is for you. This episode unpacks: Solana’s ad backlash—cringe marketing or a deeper shift? Why fintech giants are moving to stablecoins How Privy is fixing onboarding and wallet UX The end of high-FDV, low-float tokenomics Why vanity metrics no longer fool anyone Fat apps vs. infrastructure—who really wins? Disney’s crypto hire—real move or PR stunt? Airdrops as tax burdens, not free money Pump, Rainbow, and the future of token launches What crypto must believe in to move forward Chapters: 0:00 — Intro: Crypto's promise of hope and abundance 5:54 — Solana ad controversy and community response 12:00 — Privy's $15 million raise and crypto onboarding 19:28 — Challenges in getting assets into wallets 26:53 — Shift towards earning tokens and social context 32:43 — Token models: Issues and potential solutions 44:48 — Rethinking token launches and distribution methods 55:54 — Bobby Hundreds joins Disney as VP 59:57 — Pump and Rainbow: New token launch platforms 1:02:51 — NYSE's brand promise and crypto's potential 1:04:48 — Outro: Upcoming topics and newsletter recommendations Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us⁠ live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/35819490

Win $150,000 Playing Crypto's Squid Game | Internet Explorers Ep. 71 03/15/2025

Win $150,000 Playing Crypto's Squid Game | Internet Explorers Ep. 71 What happens when you combine Survivor, Squid Game, and Hunger Games…onchain? Uncover the secrets behind Crypto: The Game's explosive success and its acquisition by Uniswap Labs. Dylan Abruscato, the game's creator, shares insights on building a viral onchain experience that's captivating cryptotwitter with a $150,000 (72 ETH) prize pool. Learn how CTG evolved from a bootstrapped side project to a cornerstone of Uniswap's marketing strategy, and explore the challenges of balancing innovation with sustainability in the ever-evolving Web3 landscape. This episode also dives into the complexities of crypto media, the long-term vision for blockchain technology, and the exciting potential of AI-powered financial tools for individual investors. This episode unpacks: Bear market tactics when ETH dips under $2K Meme hype colliding with deep crypto fundamentals Blockworks controversy over media integrity and venture bags Crypto: The Game - A blockchain survivor game sparking on-chain drama Uniswap’s acquisition redefining crypto experiential marketing Innovation takes time, echoing the long nose of progress Speculative mania versus long-term crypto conviction On-chain voting chaos and NFT resurrection mechanics AI tools delivering hedge fund insights to individuals Mobile gaming apps revolutionizing interactive crypto experiences Chapters: 00:00 — But first, Coffee (and Market Anxiety) 06:20 — Peak Crypto Nihilism: What Do You Believe In? 16:37 — Periodic Mania vs. Fundamentals in Crypto 24:30 — Should Everything Be a Coin? 29:56 — CTG Breakdown: The Survivor of Crypto 37:03 — Why Uniswap Acquired Crypto: The Game 46:36 — How 400 Players Are Battling for 150 ETH 52:32 — The Blockworks Controversy & Media Integrity 58:27 — The Long Nose of Innovation: Why Tech Takes Time Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us⁠ live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/35708060

The Gameshow that Pays to Play | Internet Explorers Ep. 70 03/09/2025

The Gameshow that Pays to Play | Internet Explorers Ep. 70 Can a gameshow make crypto fun and profitable at the same time? This week on Internet Explorers, we sit down with Krish Jagirdar, co-founder of Rek Tech, the crypto game show where players compete for high-stakes prizes like Rolexes and rare NFTs. Krish shares how Internet Game evolved into Rek Tech and why experiential crypto products are capturing attention. We also dive into Zora’s memecoin experiment—is this the cleanest way to launch a token? Plus, Lore founder Thomas Scaria unveils a new on-chain hedge fund platform, aiming to bring trust and transparency to crypto investing. With crypto gaming, memecoins, and onchain finance all heating up, we explore what’s actually working in crypto right now. Tune in for insights, bold takes, and the latest trends shaping the space. This episode unpacks: The Game Show That Pays You to Play? Inside Rek Tech’s Wild, Wild Crypto Experiment Zora Just Launched a Memecoin—Is This the Future of Crypto Tokens? On-Chain Hedge Funds Are Here—Will They Replace Traditional Is Crypto Gaming the Next Big Crypto Trend? Inside the Rek Tech Experiment The Ownership Economy Is Dead? Zora’s Token Experiment Says Otherwise Forget Governance—Memecoins Are the Future of Crypto Tokens Crypto Games, Memecoins & On-Chain Investing—Where Crypto is Headed Next Jess and Josh dive into the broader trend of ephemeral on-chain experiences and what it takes to build long-term compounding value in crypto. Chapters: 00:00 — Intro & Friday Vibes – Jess & Josh set the stage 02:09 — Crypto Gaming Trends: Crypto the Game & Experiential Tokens 03:39 — Introducing Krish Jagirdar: The Evolution from Internet Game to Rec Tech 08:09 — What Makes Rec Tech Different? Prize Pools, Memes & Community 13:24 — How to Play: Dream Pass, Daily Games & Season 1 Details 19:42 — The Rise of Ephemeral Crypto Games & Attention Economy 23:35 — Zora’s Meme Coin Strategy: Smart Move or Legal Hurdle? 28:01 — Should TikTok Go On-Chain? Alexis Ohanian’s Big Idea 34:07 — Fully Automated Firms: AI-Run Companies & the Future of Work 43:00 — On-Chain Funds with Thomas Scaria: Inside Lore’s New Model 51:08 — The Future of Crypto Investing: On-Chain Funds & Tokenized Economies 58:44 — Final Thoughts & What’s Next for Internet Explorers Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us⁠ live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/35580935

This AI Predicts Startup Success | Internet Explorers Ep. 69 03/01/2025

Ship a Crypto App in Seconds with AI | Internet Explorers Ep. 68 02/22/2025

Ship a Crypto App in Seconds with AI | Internet Explorers Ep. 68 What if anyone could build a crypto app—without writing a single line of code? In this episode of Internet Explorers, Jess Sloss and Josh Cornelius sit down with Brexton Pham, co-founder of Ohara, to explore how AI is revolutionizing app development and why software is becoming the next form of content. Brexton lays out his bold vision: a world where non-technical creators generate crypto-native apps in seconds, memecoins replace traditional business models, and attention is the only currency that matters. But if software is free to create, what happens next? Ohara’s answer might change how you think about crypto. This episode unpacks: The No-Code Crypto Future – Why 99% of future apps won’t be built by developers. Meme Coins as Monetization – The strongest incentives drive the most engagement. Can meme coins become a sustainable business model?* Rethinking Tokenization – Why most app tokens fail—and what actually works. Building on Base – Ohara’s bet on Base and the EVM ecosystem for the next generation of crypto-native apps. Software as a Social Experience – What happens when building an app is as easy as making a TikTok? Other topics explored: Are crypto-native app chains a game changer or just another layer of complexity? What happens when sports teams, brands, and internet culture go on-chain? Are airdrops still a viable strategy, or just exit liquidity for insiders?* An agent-only ecosystem sounds futuristic—but does it actually work? You Wouldn't Salt a Monkey…or would you? Chapters: 0:00 – Intro: The ByBit Hack You Slept Through 3:55 – Meet Brexton Pham & The Ohara Vision 4:56 – Software as Content & The Rise of Non-Technical Creators 9:29 – Attention-Based Monetization: Why Memecoins Are the Future 12:43 – Tokenizing Apps: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly 16:36 – Remixing Apps & Forking Without the Drama 21:47 – Why Token Launches Fail & The Zero-Cost App Revolution 25:18 – AI’s Role in Crypto App Generation 27:30 – App Chains: The Dream vs. The Reality 30:50 – Tokenizing Culture: What If the Lakers Launched a Coin? 38:21 – Kaito’s Token Launch & The Airdrop Debate 54:30 – Dream Chain: A VIP Club for AI Agents? 59:56 – You Wouldn't Salt a Monkey Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us⁠ live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: Apple: Spotify: Pods.media: /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/35385400

Earn Passive Income with Crypto (Without Trading)? | Internet Explorers Ep. 67 02/15/2025

Earn Passive Income with Crypto (Without Trading)? | Internet Explorers Ep. 67 What if holding crypto actually made you money—without trading, staking, or flipping NFTs? In this episode of Internet Explorers, co-hosts Jess Sloss, Josh Cornelius, and Peace Node sit down with Brian Flynn (CEO of Boost.xyz) to explore the rise of tokens designed to pay holders real value. For years, crypto has been driven by speculation—but that might be changing. A new model is emerging, where tokens generate real revenue and share it with holders. But does it work? Will it replace traditional tokenomics? And what does it mean for the future of crypto? This episode unpacks: What’s Broken in Crypto? Why most tokens don’t provide real value. How Tokens Can Actually Pay You – The mechanics behind revenue-generating tokens. Buy & Burn vs. Direct Payouts – Which model is better for holders? How Crypto Projects Are Changing – Why teams are rethinking token incentives. The Future of Passive Income in Crypto – Can this become a sustainable model? Other topics explored: Big shifts in consumer crypto Should internet pictures have market caps? Slow Ventures investing in creators Should you bring traditional businesses onchain? OpenSea's attempts at a rising tide for $SEA Chapters: 00:00 - Intro: The Shift to Revenue Tokens 06:03 - Buy & Burn vs. Direct Payouts 14:27 - Why Crypto Is Moving Toward Fundamentals 19:56 - Token Models: Flexibility vs. Long-Term Value 25:08 - The Case for a Startup Token Launchpad 30:00 - Consumer Crypto: The Next Big Wave 36:02 - Should Internet Pictures Have Market Caps? 45:30 - Can OpenSea Make $SEA Go Up? 51:20 - Slow Ventures Investing Directly in Creators 55:28 - Bringing Traditional Businesses On-Chain 1:03:34 - Thank God the Creative Revolution is Here Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us⁠ live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: Apple: Spotify: Pods.media: /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/35291820

MegaETH's plan to save Ethereum (and beat Solana at their own game) | Internet Explorers Ep. 66 02/08/2025

Beyond Speculation: Doodles Strategy + The Real Value in Tokens | Internet Explorers Ep. 65 02/01/2025

Beyond Speculation: Doodles Strategy + The Real Value in Tokens | Internet Explorers Ep. 65 Can you build lasting value with tokens and NFTs? What does it mean for memecoins, tokenized startups, and your bags? In Episode 65 of Internet Explorers, co-hosts Jess Sloss, Josh Cornelius, and Peace Node chat with Austin Hurwitz, Head of Strategy & Business Development at Doodles, to explore how one of crypto’s most recognizable projects is evolving for the new meta. This episode unpacks: The Token Singularity – Why every project is launching a token right now, and what it means for the market. Doodles’ Next Chapter – How the NFT project is evolving beyond collectibles into a full-stack media and creative studio. NFT Chains vs. Other Models – Why some projects (like Pudgy Penguins & Abstract) are launching their own chains while Doodles is taking a different approach. The Value of Crypto Communities – How co-creation and storytelling drive long-term engagement. Memecoins & Speculation – Trump, Portnoy, and the explosion of token launches—what’s real and what’s hype? $JELLYJELLY's Viral Token Play – How the launch of $JELLYJELLY perfectly highlights the pros AND cons of tokenized launches. Social Tokens & Reputation Markets – Are onchain social assets finally finding product-market fit? And why are we not learning from our mistakes? The Next Phase of Crypto Business Models – Why real value capture is becoming more critical than ever. Chapters: 2:02 - Austin discusses NFT projects and trends 4:13 - Overview of Doodles' evolution and partnerships 8:54 - Doodles' crypto-native brand partnerships strategy 14:55 - Converting social capital into tangible value 20:46 - Impact of leadership change in Doodles 28:24 - Venmo co-founder launches startup token? 34:33 - Intentions behind viral marketing tactics 38:12 - Utility tokens and market trends discussion 48:26 - Tax implications for crypto in the U.S 53:38 - Emphasis on reinventing ideas in crypto innovation Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us⁠ live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: Apple: Spotify: Pods.media: /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/35107455

Why is Everyone Launching Tokens? (Trump, Portnoy, Vine) | IE Ep. 64 01/25/2025

TikTok ban looms as crypto megarounds return | IE Ep. 63 01/19/2025

Ethereum vs. Solana: The Smart Contract Debate | Internet Explorers Ep. 62 01/11/2025

Where are we in the AI x Crypto hype cycle? w/ Ben Roy & Nicholas | Ep. 61 01/04/2025

Where are we in the AI x Crypto hype cycle? w/ Ben Roy & Nicholas | Ep. 61 Is AI the breakthrough crypto needs? Or is it just in need of good UX? In this first episode of Internet Explorers for 2025, co-hosts Jess Sloss and Josh Cornelius are joined by Ben Roy and Nicholas for a wide-ranging exploration of the metas, tools, and ideas reshaping the Internet. This episode covers: AI Agents as Proto-Corporations: Are we seeing the birth of a new organizational paradigm? Inspired by Scott Belsky’s Cognicos, the team dives into AI-native coordination and its parallels to DAOs. Crypto’s UX Problem: From confusing wallet setups to network hurdles, crypto adoption continues to struggle. Is 2025 the year this finally changes? The Fat Protocol vs. Fat Apps Debate: Exploring where value truly accrues as foundational models evolve and application layers innovate. Dream Time Theory: What if this moment is the internet’s greatest inflection point? We reflect on Robin Hanson’s idea of a generational turning point, shaped by transformative tech like crypto and AI. Whether you're a builder, an AI skeptic, or just curious about the intersections of decentralized networks and artificial intelligence, this episode provides thoughtful insights into the possibilities—and challenges—of the year ahead. Chapters: 00:00 - Big Questions for 2025 09:00 - Rabbit Holes from the Break 13:00 - AI as New Corporations 22:00 - Solving Crypto UX Woes 32:00 - Where's the Value: Protocols vs. Apps 36:00 - Dream Time: An Inflection Point 42:00 - Personal Brands in AI Economies 48:00 - Reimagining Coordination on-Chain 54:00 - Future of Networked Incentives 60:00 - Closing Reflections on Focus Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us⁠ live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: Apple: Spotify: Pods.media: /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/34717915

Worldbuilding for AI w/ Poof from DXRG & Martin from Aethernet | Ep. 59 12/14/2024

Are NFTs Back? w/ Derek of Collab Currency | Ep. 58 12/07/2024

This Will End Trader LARPs w/ wijuwiju.eth of Interface | Ep. 57 11/30/2024

This Will End Trader LARPs w/ wijuwiju.eth of Interface | Ep. 57 Finally, we know who the top trader is. In episode #57 of Internet Explorers, Jess and Josh delve into some of the most intriguing trends shaping Web3 and crypto. They kick things off with Interface, a platform that merges social networking with the blockchain, enabling users to build their social graph by copy-trading wallets and forming reputation-driven connections directly on-chain. The hosts reflect on the challenges and successes of developing consumer-focused blockchain products during a bear market and how Interface is carving out a niche with its discovery and trading features. The conversation then shifts to tokenomics, focusing on the evolution from complex whitepapers to meme-driven token launches. They explore the balance between capturing early belief and building utility over time, emphasizing the need for sustainability in token models. Other key topics include Capital Formation in the Reputation Era, where they examine how on-chain reputation is reshaping funding models, and Model Personality as a Moat, which highlights the growing role of AI in defining unique business defensibilities. The episode concludes with updates on Base’s resurgence and an exciting Lightning Round, featuring a creative vampire attack idea. 0:00 - Intro 0:26 - Start of Episode 4:09 - Interface 28:24 - Checking in on Tokenomics 39:53 - Capital Formation in the Reputation Era 47:48 - Model Personality as a Moat 52:40 - Base is Back 54:20 - A Stroll Through Consumer Crypto 55:52 - Lightning Round Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us at ⁠live.seedclub.xyz⁠ on Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Internet Explorers Twitter: https://x.com/intrntexplorers Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZ... Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/34209580

Can Crypto Accelerate Scientific Breakthroughs? w/ Tyler from Triplicate | Ep. 56 11/23/2024

Can Crypto Accelerate Scientific Breakthroughs? w/ Tyler from Triplicate | Ep. 56 Tyler is putting Science back into the hands of the people. In episode #56 of Internet Explorers, Jess and Josh explore the forefront of decentralized science (DeSci) with Tyler from Triplicate, unpacking how blockchain is unlocking new funding models, democratizing research, and enabling cutting-edge projects like molecular therapeutics and patient-driven clinical trials. They analyze how these decentralized approaches are breaking free from the constraints of traditional institutions and incentivizing innovation in unexpected ways. The discussion shifts to distribution-first software, a paradigm focused on leveraging social networks and decentralized platforms to maximize reach and adoption before building standalone products. They also examine the concept of Moats in the age of AI, debating whether traditional business defensibility strategies hold up in a world of open-source models and rapidly evolving technologies. Later, they reflect on the growing presence of normies in degen crypto spaces, and the unhinged activities occurring on pump.fun (jess is scared). The episode concludes with ai16z drama, reflecting on how it's more difficult it is to build when a token is involved. 0:00 - Intro 1:08 - Start of Episode 4:26 - DeSci 37:07 - Distribution-First Software 42:38 - Moats In The Age Of AI 49:32 - The Normies Are Here 54:48 - ai16z Drama Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us at ⁠live.seedclub.xyz⁠ on Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Internet Explorers Twitter: https://x.com/intrntexplorers Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZ... Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/34119986

Memecoins, But Automated w/ Proxystudio | Ep. 55 11/16/2024

You Can See Yourself In Vogue w/ Dov of Xhibit | Ep. 54 11/09/2024

Cruelty Free AI w/ Mat Dryhurst of Spawning | Ep. 53 11/02/2024

Are AI Agents Replacing Influencers? w/ Kalos of Wayfinder & Parallel | Ep. 52 10/26/2024

Engage With Creators, Earn Rewards? w/ betashop.eth of Moxie | Ep. 51 10/19/2024

Engage With Creators, Earn Rewards? w/ betashop.eth of Moxie | Ep. 51 In episode #51 of Internet Explorers, Jess and Nicholas dive into Moxie, a financial protocol on Farcaster that allows users to create fan tokens and earn rewards through engagement, with Moxie's founder, betashop.eth. They explore how Moxie is reshaping decentralized social economies and becoming one of the most used protocols on the Base blockchain. The hosts also take a deep dive into Comm with Comm's founder, Ashoat. Comm is a privacy-first messaging app built to compete with giants like Discord and Telegram, offering a more secure, decentralized way for communities to connect with the unique ability to host your own keyservers - meaning only your community can read your data. The discussion then shifts to WorldCoin’s rebrand and big event, where they break down the potential impact of biometric identity verification and its role in the future of decentralized finance. They also touch on the growing trend of AI Memecoins and what the recent a16z State of Crypto Report reveals about the current health and trajectory of the industry. The episode wraps up with a fast-paced Lightning Round, covering the $DJT Token, the Praxis project, and why ZkTLS could be having its big breakthrough moment, merging web2 APIs with web3. 0:00 - Intro 0:49 - Start of Podcast 2:31 - Moxie 16:44 - Comm 27:12 - Worldcoin 38:07 - AI Memecoins 46:07 - A16z's State of Crypto Report 48:59 - Lightning Round 49:03 - $DJT 51:55 - Praxis 55:02 - ZkTLS Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us at ⁠live.seedclub.xyz⁠ on Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Internet Explorers Twitter: https://x.com/intrntexplorers Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/33520312

Social Media Betting & more w/ T H of Kizzy | Ep. 50 10/12/2024

Social Media Betting & more w/ T H of Kizzy | Ep. 50 In episode #50 of Internet Explorers, Jess and Josh dive into several major topics shaping the Web3 space. They start exploring Kizzy, a social betting app that’s gaining traction on the Monad chain, offering users a platform to speculate on creators and influencers much like a "DraftKings for social media", with it's founder, T H. The hosts explore how Kizzy is revolutionizing engagement by financializing social media, making betting on creators as engaging as sports betting. The episode also covers Seed Club’s acquisition of Build with Joey, the co-founder of Backdrop, the company that developed Build. Build is an exciting development in the world of decentralized accelerators, and the hosts discuss how this merger will support Web3 builders by providing a platform that scales with emerging blockchain projects. They then shift gears to talk about CultureFi, debating the cultural and economic impacts of token-driven systems on digital platforms. Wrapping up, they discuss the launch of PvP in the blockchain gaming space and highlight the rising interest in Unichain, a new project focused on scaling decentralized applications. The episode finishes with a fast-paced Lightning Round, covering recent updates and emerging trends in Web3. 0:00 - Intro 0:31 - Start of Podcast 2:16 - Kizzy w/ T H 23:42 - Build w/ Joey 44:12 - CultureFi 53:00 - PVP 55:46 - Unichain Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us at ⁠live.seedclub.xyz⁠ on Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Internet Explorers Twitter: https://x.com/intrntexplorers Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/33428642

Putting Our Brains Onchain w/ cojo.eth of Ponder | Ep. 49 10/05/2024

Are Memecoins The Future of Streaming? w/ br1an.eth of Unlonely | Ep 48 09/29/2024

Guess NYT Headlines, WIN BIG w/ 0xSmallBrain from TMR News | Ep. 47 09/21/2024

Guess NYT Headlines, WIN BIG w/ 0xSmallBrain from TMR News | Ep. 47 Will predicting NYT headlines make you a millionaire? In this episode of Internet Explorers, the guest hosts Cheryl and Nicholas dive into a variety of Web3 topics, starting with an interview with 0xSmallBrain about his project, Tomorrow News, a prediction market that lets users bet on future New York Times headlines. They explore how this platform uses AI to assess prediction accuracy and discuss the potential for expanding prediction markets beyond simple binary outcomes. The conversation shifts to former President Trump’s appearance on Farokh's Rug Radio and the growing involvement of political figures in crypto spaces. They then break down Mr. Beast's employee memo, analyzing his unique approach to content creation, leadership, and how his results-driven culture has helped him dominate YouTube. They also highlight the "Where Are The Fcking Apps"* initiative by Joke Race, a contest showcasing the latest consumer crypto applications, and dive into updates on Farcaster Channels and Doodles' new crypto payment integration. The episode wraps up with a discussion on Vitalik Buterin's Ethereum Story, a film offering an intimate look into the Ethereum co-founder. They finish with thoughts on the SEC's regulatory stance on crypto, followed by a fast-paced Lightning Round, touching on trending topics in the Web3 space. 0:00 - Start of Podcast 0:28 - Start of Episode 1:38 - 0xSmallBrain 17:12 - Trump & Rug Radio 19:51 - The Mr. Beast Memo 25:34 - Where Are The F*cking Apps? 29:25 - Farcaster Channels 35:00 - Doodles 39:25 - Vitalik: An Ethereum Story 42:42 - The SEC Won't Let Us Cook 49:30 - Lightning Round Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us at ⁠live.seedclub.xyz⁠ on Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Internet Explorers Twitter: https://x.com/intrntexplorers YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SeedClubHQ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS /episode/index/show/0dd82cad-a384-4ad4-95c0-5ea0641af0ed/id/33152772

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