Ep 22: Beyond the Paycheck: Building a Life That Matters with Ben Hardman & Luke Dooley
Release Date: 03/25/2025
Wealth Beyond Riches
In Part 2 of this conversation with Riley Fuller, we move from origin story to impact story — the daily, tangible work of Humanity & Hope United and what Riley has learned about leadership, hope, and living generously. Riley and Tim Meisenheimer explore how his leadership shifted from managing by force in the corporate world to leading as a servant — listening first, empowering others, and building leaders in the communities he serves. Riley explains how his team measures hope scientifically, how generational poverty is being broken through education, entrepreneurship, and leadership...
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What happens when your life plan collapses — and a moment of unexpected clarity forces you to redefine purpose? In Part 1 of this conversation, Tim Meisenheimer talks with Riley Fuller, founder of Humanity & Hope United and Generous Coffee. Riley grew up as the seventh generation in his family’s Indiana food business, destined for stability and success. But heartbreak, addiction, and eventually jail time pushed him into survival mode — and then into an unexpected trip to Honduras that changed everything. There, Riley came face-to-face with what he calls the birth lottery — the...
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If the first half of Liz Fay’s story was about courage and agency — choosing to step away from a 19-year teaching career — this half is about what comes next: the open space. Host Tim Meisenheimer and Liz talk about learning to rest before life demands it, the discipline of Sabbath, and why “no shoulds” became her rule for peace. Together, they explore how to practice rest without guilt, why receiving might be the bravest form of generosity, and how to reclaim agency when life feels full of non-negotiables. Liz offers wisdom not just for teachers, but for anyone facing burnout,...
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What happens when generosity becomes your answer to scarcity? In this heartfelt conversation, host Tim Meisenheimer sits down with Liz Fay — a longtime friend, fellow teacher, and his very first financial planning client — to explore how money follows values. Liz shares how she learned finance at the library before ever carrying a balance, why generosity became her response to fear, and what it looked like to open her home so friends could walk out of debt together. Together, they discuss the years of teaching through the pandemic, the yellow flags we often ignore, and the morning Liz...
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In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, host Tim Meisenheimer continues his conversation with pastor and author Heath Hardesty, diving into themes from his new book, All Things Together: How Apprenticeship to Jesus Is the Way of Flourishing in a Fragmented World. Heath unpacks the deep connection between joy and generosity, sharing how a life aligned with God’s abundance leads to greater freedom, joy, and relational wholeness. Together, Tim and Heath explore how generosity forms us, why giving isn’t just financial, and how abundance and scarcity mindsets shape our view of the world....
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In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim sits down with Heath Hardesty—pastor, author of All Things Together (releasing October 14), speaker, entrepreneur, and father of five. Heath shares his unlikely journey from working as a plumber’s apprentice to becoming a pastor in Silicon Valley, and how an existential crisis reshaped his faith and purpose. With wisdom that blends theology, literature, culture, and even Monty Python, Heath offers a fresh perspective on what it means to live a deeply integrated life in a fragmented world. Together, they dive into: Heath’s early career, from...
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In part two of our conversation, David Green and Bill High share more about the principles that have guided Hobby Lobby and the Green family for generations. David unpacks the practices that keep him grounded as a CEO—prioritizing family, focusing on the “main thing,” and resisting the distractions of endless work. Bill offers perspective on how intentional family culture shapes legacy, and why the Greens view Hobby Lobby not just as a company, but as a ministry. You’ll also hear why David has no intention of selling Hobby Lobby, what it means to make a “great handoff” to future...
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In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim sits down with David Green, founder and CEO of Hobby Lobby, and Bill High, author and legacy consultant, to explore the story behind one of America’s most unique businesses—and the values that shaped it. From a $600 loan and handmade picture frames to over 1,000 stores nationwide, David shares Hobby Lobby’s humble beginnings, his parents’ influence, and the central role of faith and generosity in shaping both business and family. Bill provides practical wisdom on how families can move beyond short-term thinking to build lasting legacies...
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In Part 2 of our conversation with leadership advisor Brad Lomenick, we dive into what it really means to find clarity as a leader. Brad unpacks the difference between calling and assignment, showing how leaders can navigate seasons of transition without losing their sense of purpose. He shares his “four quadrants” framework—wiring, passion, God’s story, and sustainability—as a practical tool for discovering direction. We talk through why so many leaders struggle with burnout, how to avoid “squatting” in roles that no longer fit, and what it looks like to keep moving from...
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In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim sits down with Brad Lomenick—strategic advisor, author, podcaster, and leadership connector—to explore the difference between networkers and connectors. Brad shares why clarity is essential for avoiding burnout, how connectors add long-term value, and why generosity and curiosity are the real currencies of influence. From lessons learned as a ranch wrangler to leading conversations with global CEOs, Brad reveals practical ways to build trust, steward influence, and live with an abundance mindset. This conversation is packed with wisdom for...
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Our mission at Wealth Beyond Riches is for you to reclaim your relationship with work and money. This is not another personal finance show about how to hack your way to riches. We cover the deeper dimensions of finance. These guests have thought long and hard about their relationship with work and money, so they can leverage their purpose and calling to have a greater impact on the world. The goal is that you hear something that moves your life 1% closer to your true purpose.
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