Grief Is Not a Problem to Solve with Steve Carter
Wealth Beyond Riches
A leadership calling can unravel faster than anyone expects. Tim Meisenheimer sits down with Steve Carter, bestselling author and former lead teaching pastor at Willow Creek, to talk about integrity, grief, and what it means to choose the right path when the cost is public, painful, and personal. Steve shares the story of preparing to step into one of the most visible church leadership roles in the country—only to watch it dissolve as scandal surfaced around his mentor and organization. In the middle of uncertainty, pressure, and loss, Steve was forced to confront a defining question: Would...
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You Can’t Grow and Control Everything with Justin Whitmel Earley
Wealth Beyond Riches
In Part 2 of this conversation, Tim Meisenheimer and Justin Whitmel Earley shift from habits and formation into the deeply human realities of business, leadership, generosity, and trust. Justin pulls back the curtain on what really happens when people buy, sell, or transition businesses — and why the hardest parts are rarely technical. Drawing from his work as a business attorney and firm owner, Justin explains why the best outcomes come from building the right team early: trusted advisors, honest friends, and spiritual mentors who can help carry the emotional and ethical weight of major...
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You Can’t Think Your Way to Change with Justin Whitmel Earley
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In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim Meisenheimer sits down with Justin Whitmel Earley—business lawyer, author, former missionary, and habit-builder—to explore why lasting change doesn’t start with willpower or ideas, but with practices. Justin shares how an intense season of anxiety and burnout early in his legal career forced him to confront a painful disconnect between what he believed and how he was actually living. Though his theology and values were strong, his habits—sleep, work pace, phone use, rest, and embodiment—were quietly shaping him into someone he didn’t...
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Ep 38: Hope Can Be Measured with Riley Fuller
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In Part 2 of this conversation with Riley Fuller, we move from origin story to impact story — the daily, tangible work of Humanity & Hope United and what Riley has learned about leadership, hope, and living generously. Riley and Tim Meisenheimer explore how his leadership shifted from managing by force in the corporate world to leading as a servant — listening first, empowering others, and building leaders in the communities he serves. Riley explains how his team measures hope scientifically, how generational poverty is being broken through education, entrepreneurship, and leadership...
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Ep 37: Privilege Isn’t Yours to Keep With Riley Fuller
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What happens when your life plan collapses — and a moment of unexpected clarity forces you to redefine purpose? In Part 1 of this conversation, Tim Meisenheimer talks with Riley Fuller, founder of Humanity & Hope United and Generous Coffee. Riley grew up as the seventh generation in his family’s Indiana food business, destined for stability and success. But heartbreak, addiction, and eventually jail time pushed him into survival mode — and then into an unexpected trip to Honduras that changed everything. There, Riley came face-to-face with what he calls the birth lottery — the...
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Ep 36: The Courage to Stop with Liz Fay
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If the first half of Liz Fay’s story was about courage and agency — choosing to step away from a 19-year teaching career — this half is about what comes next: the open space. Host Tim Meisenheimer and Liz talk about learning to rest before life demands it, the discipline of Sabbath, and why “no shoulds” became her rule for peace. Together, they explore how to practice rest without guilt, why receiving might be the bravest form of generosity, and how to reclaim agency when life feels full of non-negotiables. Liz offers wisdom not just for teachers, but for anyone facing burnout,...
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Ep 35: You Don’t Need More to Give More with Liz Fay
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What happens when generosity becomes your answer to scarcity? In this heartfelt conversation, host Tim Meisenheimer sits down with Liz Fay — a longtime friend, fellow teacher, and his very first financial planning client — to explore how money follows values. Liz shares how she learned finance at the library before ever carrying a balance, why generosity became her response to fear, and what it looked like to open her home so friends could walk out of debt together. Together, they discuss the years of teaching through the pandemic, the yellow flags we often ignore, and the morning Liz...
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EP: 34 Joyful Generosity: How Giving Shapes the Soul with Heath Hardesty
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In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, host Tim Meisenheimer continues his conversation with pastor and author Heath Hardesty, diving into themes from his new book, All Things Together: How Apprenticeship to Jesus Is the Way of Flourishing in a Fragmented World. Heath unpacks the deep connection between joy and generosity, sharing how a life aligned with God’s abundance leads to greater freedom, joy, and relational wholeness. Together, Tim and Heath explore how generosity forms us, why giving isn’t just financial, and how abundance and scarcity mindsets shape our view of the world....
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EP 33: All Things Together: Rediscovering Wonder in a Fragmented World with Heath Hardesty
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In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches, Tim sits down with Heath Hardesty—pastor, author of All Things Together (releasing October 14), speaker, entrepreneur, and father of five. Heath shares his unlikely journey from working as a plumber’s apprentice to becoming a pastor in Silicon Valley, and how an existential crisis reshaped his faith and purpose. With wisdom that blends theology, literature, culture, and even Monty Python, Heath offers a fresh perspective on what it means to live a deeply integrated life in a fragmented world. Together, they dive into: Heath’s early career, from...
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EP 32: Family Over Profit: The Secret Behind Hobby Lobby’s Success with David Green & Bill High
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In part two of our conversation, David Green and Bill High share more about the principles that have guided Hobby Lobby and the Green family for generations. David unpacks the practices that keep him grounded as a CEO—prioritizing family, focusing on the “main thing,” and resisting the distractions of endless work. Bill offers perspective on how intentional family culture shapes legacy, and why the Greens view Hobby Lobby not just as a company, but as a ministry. You’ll also hear why David has no intention of selling Hobby Lobby, what it means to make a “great handoff” to future...
info_outlineIn Part 2 of this conversation with Riley Fuller, we move from origin story to impact story — the daily, tangible work of Humanity & Hope United and what Riley has learned about leadership, hope, and living generously.
Riley and Tim Meisenheimer explore how his leadership shifted from managing by force in the corporate world to leading as a servant — listening first, empowering others, and building leaders in the communities he serves. Riley explains how his team measures hope scientifically, how generational poverty is being broken through education, entrepreneurship, and leadership development, and why joy and responsibility can exist side by side.
This episode is a practical, inspiring look at what happens when holy ambition grows into a movement: homes rebuilt, businesses launched, women empowered, recovery introduced, and young leaders returning to serve the very communities that raised them.
💡 What We Learned
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Hope Is a Mindset You Can Build — scientifically defined by goals, pathways, and agency.
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Servant Leadership Works — authority is meant to bless, not control.
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Hope Compounds — once someone learns to hope, it creates new neural pathways that make future hope easier.
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Local Leadership Changes Communities — the most powerful transformation comes when people rise from within the community.
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Faith + Measurement = Impact — combining spiritual hope with data and six development pillars (health, education, economy, community, leadership, infrastructure).
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Innovation Matters — preschool + women-owned chicken business, recovery programs, and home-building trips.
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Legacy Is Built Daily — small, consistent acts of generosity and service create long-term change.
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Proximity Creates Aliveness — the people most moved to action are those who go, see, and participate.
Resources Mentioned
Here are the concrete books, articles, organizations, and websites referenced in Part 2:
1. Humanity & Hope United Foundation
Riley’s nonprofit empowering communities in Honduras through hope-based development.
http://www.humanityandhope.org
2. Generous Coffee
Coffee company donating 100% of profits to humanitarian work.
http://www.generouscoffee.com
3. Global Leadership Summit (GLS)
Where Riley learned the principles of servant leadership.
http://www.globalleadership.org
4. Brookings Institution
Nonpartisan Washington D.C. think tank partnering with Riley to create a measurable hope-assessment tool.
http://www.brookings.edu
5. Bible – Hebrews 6:19 (“Hope as an Anchor”)
A recurring foundation for the episode's conversation on hope.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+6%3A19&version=NIV
6. Book – The Big Short by Michael Lewis (context for Riley’s finance career)
http://www.amazon.com/Big-Short-Inside-Doomsday-Machine/dp/0393338827
7. AA / 12-Step Recovery Resources
Referenced as part of Riley’s personal transformation and future plans for Honduras.
https://www.aa.org
00:00 Leadership Evolution at Humanity and Hope United
02:49 The Power of Hope in Community Development
06:02 Measuring Hope: A Scientific Approach
08:55 Transformative Leadership and Personal Growth
11:59 Innovative Strategies in Nonprofit Work
14:50 Engaging with Humanity and Hope United
18:12 Personal Reflections and Life Lessons