Introducing VDAO: Building Antifragile Network States | Greenpill Podcast
Release Date: 11/03/2025
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VDAO Ep.7 From Software to Soil: Health, Food & Building Real Resilience with Danilo Da Rosa
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New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the VDAO × Greenpill Anti-Fragile Network States mini-series, host Kris Miller speaks with Danilo, a software engineer who left city life behind to rebuild his health, relationship with food, and sense of resilience through permaculture, natural building, and community living in Uruguay. Danilo shares how a health crisis pushed him to rethink his lifestyle, why growing food changed everything, and how moving closer to nature reshaped his understanding of resilience. They explore food autonomy, water catchment, natural house building,...
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NN Ep:13 - Intentional Communities & New Jurisdictions with Jessy Kate Schingler
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New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi is joined by Jessy Kate Schingler, co-founder of the Embassy Network, to explore how intentional communities and new jurisdictions can give Network Nations real-world grounding. Jessy shares lessons from over a decade of building translocal co-living communities, explains why the Embassy Network thought of its spaces as “embassies to the future,” and how identity, culture, and entanglement emerge without formal membership rules. The conversation then turns to jurisdictional...
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NN Ep:12 From politics to protocols to protocol politics with Santiago Siri
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In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi speak with Santiago Siri, founder of Democracy Earth, DemocracyOS, and Proof of Humanity, to explore a central question of the digital age: Can we escape politics with protocols or do protocols simply create new political arenas? Santiago shares his journey from building Argentina’s internet political party Partido de la Red, to creating open-source democratic infrastructure, to running one of the most ambitious on-chain identity and governance experiments in Web3. They discuss identity as the core bottleneck of digital...
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NN Ep:11 Let a Thousand Societies Bloom with Vitalik Buterin
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New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi & Felix Beer are joined by Vitalik Buterin to reflect on one of the most influential experiments in recent community-building history: Zuzalu. Vitalik shares the motivations behind Zuzalu, what actually worked (and what didn’t), and why many pop-up cities risk drifting into “long conferences” instead of becoming real communities. Together they explore kinship vs telos, culture vs mission, permanence vs mobility, governance by forking, and how zones, tribes, and regulatory...
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NN Ep:10 Burning Man: Seeding a Network Nation
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New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi explore one of the most influential community experiments of the last 40 years: Burning Man. They’re joined by Erika Blair, who leads engagement and network strategy at Burning Man, to unpack how a one-week event in the Nevada desert evolved into a global, year-round network of communities bound not by territory, but by shared principles, rituals, and identity. The conversation dives into the origins of Burning Man, the emergence of the 10 Principles, regional burns around the...
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S.10 Ep.8 Hyperstitions: How Beliefs Become Reality in Networked Systems with Jake Hartnell
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New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the Greenpill Podcast, Kevin Owocki sits down with Jake Hartnell reality engineer, builder, and the mind behind ENOVA to explore the idea of hyperstitions: beliefs and narratives that become real by spreading through networks. Jake explains how hyperstitions operate as a new coordination primitive, why technologies like Bitcoin, Ethereum, and AGI can be seen as successful hyperstitions, and how tools like hyperstition markets blend prediction markets, incentives, and storytelling to drive collective action. They discuss ENOVA, egregores,...
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S.10 Ep.7 Prosperous Software: Rethinking Open Source Funding Through Licensing
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New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the Greenpill Podcast, Kevin Owocki talks with Raymond Cheng software engineer, researcher, and co-founder of Open Source Observer — about the Prosperous Software Movement and why open source licensing needs to evolve. Raymond explains how today’s open source economy underfunds its own foundations, why existing licenses fail to reflect modern financial realities, and how a new class of revenue-sharing licenses could sustainably fund open source dependencies. They explore the history of free software, the limits of voluntary public...
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NN Ep:9 A New Political Landscape in the Digital Age with Nick Srnicek & Sofia Cossar
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New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, host Felix Beer is joined by Nick Srnicek (author of Platform Capitalism and Silicon Empires) and Sofia Cossar (BlockchainGov) to explore the emerging concept of Network Sovereignty. They unpack how power is shifting from nation-states to digital networks, why platforms now function like political infrastructures, and how algorithms, protocols, and platforms increasingly shape governance, speech, and economic life. The conversation examines platform empires, AI infrastructure, state power, civil society...
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VDAO Ep.6 Everyday Resilience Building Anti-Fragility in Suburbia with Gardner
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New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the VDAO × Greenpill Anti-Fragile Network States mini-series, host Kris Miller talks with Gardner, a tech founder exploring how local resilience and self-sovereignty can be built without going off-grid. Gardner shares his hands-on journey of transforming a suburban home into a more resilient system from rainwater harvesting and food forests to community reciprocity and mindset shifts. They discuss why resilience doesn’t mean bunkers or isolation, how small actions compound, and why investing in community, not fear, is the real...
info_outlineNew @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌍
Kicking off a brand new Green Pill mini-series on Mondays hosted by VDAO (Marc Ziade & Kris Miller) — exploring how we can design antifragile network states that thrive through stress, decentralize sovereignty, and build regenerative communities.
For Episode 1, Kevin Owocki joins them to introduce the season’s theme — bridging crypto coordination and permaculture resilience — and discuss how antifragility offers a blueprint for building local, autonomous systems that survive disruption and grow stronger under pressure.
This season features guests like Joseph Lubin, Simon Brown, and Rob Avis, diving into real-world experiments in energy, food, governance, and community sovereignty. Subscribe so you don't miss any of the conversations!
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🌐 Timestamps
00:00 – Welcome to a new Greenpill mini-series hosted by VDAO
00:40 – Introducing Marc Rydon & Kris Miller: bridging crypto and permaculture
01:20 – What is VDAO and how it connects digital and physical sovereignty
02:10 – Defining the Antifragile Network State concept
03:00 – From regenerative to antifragile: systems that get stronger under stress
04:10 – Why centralized systems create fragility — and how to move beyond them
05:00 – Building resilient communities through autonomy and self-sufficiency
06:10 – Examples: local food production as a form of antifragility
07:00 – Resilience as the foundation for thriving through disruption
07:50 – Why antifragility is the right response to our era of accelerating change
08:30 – The vision for this new Greenpill season
09:00 – Season roadmap: from theory to practical examples
09:40 – Episode preview: Joseph Lubin on history, supercycles, and resilience
10:30 – Future episodes: real-world applications with Rob Avis and Simon Brown
11:00 – Exploring how crypto enables local and global sovereignty
11:50 – Network states beyond crypto: lessons from alternative nation movements
12:30 – How to combine localism and global coordination through Web3 tools
13:00 – What to expect from the VDAO mini-series
13:40 – Hosts’ final thoughts: making antifragility tangible for everyone
14:00 – Kevin passes the mic: new voices, same Greenpill spirit
14:30 – Closing: building communities that thrive in chaos