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Season 10. Episode 4: Meaning in the 21st Century with Ellie Hain | Greenpill Podcast

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Release Date: 11/05/2025

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New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌍
Kevin chats with Ellie Hain writer, facilitator, and co-founder of the Meaning Alignment Institute (MAI) about how we can rediscover meaning, presence, and purpose in the 21st century.

Ellie explores why so many people across modern society, tech, and culture feel disconnected, and how re-attunement to life, community, and ritual can help us restore the sacred in our everyday lives. Together, they discuss the meaning crisis, why it’s emerging now, and how new institutions might integrate purpose, beauty, and values into the systems we’re building for the future.

🎧 Links:
🌐 greenpill.network

🐦 @ellie_hain
 | @owocki | @greenpillnet
πŸŽ₯ Exit the Void: by Ellie Hain 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqB-1ABZJSM 

🌿 Timestamps

00:00 – Welcome to a new Greenpill season: exploring technology, coordination & Protopia
01:00 – Introducing guest Ellie Hain, co-founder of the Meaning Alignment Institute
02:20 – How Ellie began her journey into meaning, mysticism, and systems
04:30 – The tension between inner experience and societal expectations
05:30 – Exploring meaning as attunement to life
07:00 – Sovereignty and interdependence: dancing between individuality and the web of life
09:40 – What attunement feels like presence as a lived experience
11:00 – Exercise: reconnecting to meaningful moments
13:00 – Embodiment, resonance, and listening to life’s signals
15:00 – Why meaning is our birthright, not something to earn
17:10 – The β€œmeaning crisis” why so many feel disconnected today
19:00 – From numbness to re-sensitization: healing modern disconnection
21:00 – How modern systems desensitize us to what’s sacred
22:40 – The resilience and strength in seeking meaning
25:00 – Designing extitutions: new systems that embed meaning and purpose
27:30 – Moving beyond homo economicus: building for homo sapiens
30:00 – Institutions as reflections of human nature and sensitivity
32:40 – The concept of containers for meaning and how they become corrupted
34:10 – What new containers for meaning look like in the 21st century
36:00 – Community, ritual, and story as ancient technologies for belonging
38:30 – Raves, festivals, and modern rites of passage
40:10 – The search for a new unifying narrative in the digital age
41:30 – Why the quest for meaning is the defining work of this century
43:00 – Facing pain and shadow as part of transformation
44:20 – Allocating meaning and capital together through rituals & community
46:00 – Meaning alignment as the next frontier of institutional design
47:00 – Closing reflections: finding beauty, purpose, and connection in everyday life