Top 5 Episodes of 2024: AI, Ethics, Greenwashing, Quantum Computing, and Financial Crime
Release Date: 01/14/2025
The IIA’s New Cybersecurity Topical Requirement
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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Logan Wamsley talks with George Barham about The IIA’s . They discuss how internal audit functions should prepare for its 2026 effective date, and why CAEs should take action now. The conversation also highlights the requirement's companion user guide, outsourcing considerations, framework references, and IIA resources available to help internal audit functions conform with confidence. HOST:Associate Manager, Content Development, The IIA GUEST:, CIA, CRMA, CISA,Director, Standards &...
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Becoming a Strategic Business Partner
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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Mike Levy sits down with Rania Bejjani to discuss what it takes for internal auditors to become strategic business partners. From mindset shifts and organizational alignment to building trust and influencing change, Bejjani shares insights grounded in global experience. The conversation covers the evolving role of internal auditors, essential competencies, and how to earn a seat at the table by becoming a catalyst for strategic value. HOST:, CIA, CRMA, CISACEO and managing principal,...
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Leading Small Audit Functions: Strategies for Success
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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, George Barham talks with Skip Langlois about the unique challenges and opportunities of small internal audit functions. They discuss definitions of a small function, advice for starting one, managing expectations, building relationships and developing future leaders in a small audit environment. Langlois also shares insights on leveraging AI and why emotional intelligence matters as as much as technical skill in a small audit environment. HOST:,...
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Fraud Podcast: The Out of Control Controller
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All Things Internal Audit: Fraud Podcast"The Out of Control Controller" Listen to The IIA’s new Fraud Podcast brought to you by . This series provides fictionalized accounts of real-world frauds featured in Internal Auditor magazine’s Fraud department. In this episode, Bruce Kraus investigates a shocking embezzlement case at Allied Engineering involving longtime controller Jane Simmons. With lax oversight and too much unchecked authority, Simmons executes 11 different schemes over five years. From gift card grifts, to a ghost payroll, and a company car gone rogue, this case shows...
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The New CIA Exam and IAP Program
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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Christina Brune talks to Rick Walke and André Vertamatti about the major updates to the Certified Internal Auditor (CIA) exam and the Internal Audit Practitioner (IAP) program. They discuss the motivations behind the changes, how the updated Global Internal Audit Standards influenced the new exam, and what candidates can expect. The conversation also highlights the importance of aligning certification with real-world internal audit practices and the future of the profession. Visit...
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From Prompts to Practice: AI-Driven Innovation in Internal Audit
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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Charles King talks with Debbie Lew about the transformative role of artificial intelligence in internal auditing. They discuss the integration of AI tools like Copilot, the importance of prompt writing, and how AI is enhancing audit processes. The conversation also covers training strategies, real-world applications, and the impact of AI on stakeholder engagement. HOST: , CIA, CPA, CFE, CIPP Partner, AI in Internal Controls Leader, KPMG US GUEST: , CISA, CRISC, CHIAP...
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AI Meets Agile Internal Auditing
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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, George Barham talks with Mike Callino about how agile methodologies and artificial intelligence are transforming internal audit functions. Mike shares practical insights on implementing agile auditing, the challenges and benefits of this approach, and how AI is being used throughout the audit lifecycle. HOST:, CIA, CISA, CRMA Director, Standards & Professional Guidance, The IIA GUEST:, CIA, CISA Senior Director, Internal Audit, Braze Key Points Introduction...
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Let's Talk Talent: Building a High-Performing Internal Audit Team
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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, The IIA’s Lindsay Patterson talks with Anna Davis of Qualcomm about the crucial aspects of internal audit team formation and dynamics. They discuss hiring strategies in the current market, the importance of soft and hard skills, the challenges and benefits of remote and in-office work, and methods for fostering a strong team culture. HOST:, CIA, CPAExecutive Vice President , Membership, Marketing and Communications, The IIA GUEST:, CPAVice President, CAE,...
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EQ Meets AI: Enhancing Internal Audit
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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Andrew Guasp talks with Alex Gacheche about the importance of emotional intelligence (EQ) in the internal audit profession, especially in the context of AI advancements. They discuss how EQ can enhance internal audit effectiveness, the role of empathy and communication, and the impact of cultural differences on EQ. From active listening to handling difficult conversations, this episode unpacks the human side of internal auditing. HOST:, CIA Senior Manager, Standards & Professional Guidance,...
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Supercharging Internal Audit: Implementing Advanced AI for Risk and Monitoring
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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Charles King talks with Imraan Mulla about the transformative potential of AI in internal auditing. They discuss AI’s evolution from basic automation to advanced applications, the challenges of adoption, and the future of AI in internal auditing. The conversation also covers continuous monitoring, risk assessment, and the role of human judgment in an AI-driven world. HOST:, CIA, CPA, CFE, CIPP, Partner, AI in Internal Controls Leader, KPMG LLP GUEST: , Vice president,...
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In today’s episode, to kick off the new year, we’re counting down your top 5 favorite episodes from 2024! From tackling AI risks and ethics to uncovering misleading greenwashing claims and exploring the next frontier of quantum computing, these episodes highlight the key issues shaping the internal audit profession.
So, whether you’re a longtime listener or new to All Things Internal Audit, grab a seat and join us as we revisit the episodes that made the biggest impact in 2024. Let the countdown begin!
Episode 1: Tackling AI Risks and Ethics
Robert Pérez, owner, Pérez Communication Solutions
George Barham, director of standards & professional guidance, The IIA
Episode 2: Governance and Ethical Dilemmas in AI
David Petrisky, director, professional standards, The IIA
Brian Willis, LBMC senior manager, cybersecurity advisor
Charles King, managing director, advisory services, KPMG LLP
Alex Gacheche, head of information security, Meta
Ivan Martinez, managing director, internal audit, Goldman Sachs
Ethan Rojhani, Grant Thornton principal, risk advisory services
Wes Luckock, Grant Thornton senior manager, AI, automation and analytics
Episode 3: Exposing Greenwashing Claims
David Petrisky, director, professional standards, The IIA
Edith Wong, forensic accountant in Investigations and Compliance, FTI Consulting
Brian Wilmot, Compliance and Regulatory Counseling and Investigations and White Collar Defense Practices attorney at Paul Hastings LLP
Episode 4: Quantum Computing's Impact on Internal Auditing
Lynn Moehl, director of internal audit and chief audit executive, The IIA
Nick Reese, co-founder and COO of Frontier Foundry & former director of emerging technology at Department of Homeland Security
Episode 5: Combating Financial Crime with AI
Ricardo Martinez, senior manager, Portfolio Strategy, The IIA
Antonio Cacciapuoti, head of internal audit, Eurizon
Alessandro Casarotti, forensic and anti-financial crime director, PwC Luxembourg
Key Points:
- Introduction [00:00:02 - 00:00:36]
- Episode 1: Tackling AI Risks and Ethics [00:00:38 - 00:06:27]
- Overview of the AI auditing framework [00:00:54 - 00:01:41]
- Building an understanding within the organization [00:01:41 - 00:02:42]
- Governance, management, and internal audit domains [00:02:42 - 00:04:25]
- Engagement and leveraging relationships [00:04:25 - 00:05:25]
- Tools and resources for practitioners [00:05:25 - 00:06:27]
- Episode 2: Governance and Ethical Dilemmas in AI [00:06:32 - 00:11:42]
- Introduction to AI governance and ethics [00:06:45 - 00:07:18]
- Addressing bias and ethical risks in AI [00:07:18 - 00:08:19]
- Monitoring and controlling AI models [00:08:19 - 00:09:20]
- Governance standards and independent monitoring [00:09:20 - 00:10:15]
- Challenges and strategies for maintaining ethical standards [00:10:15 - 00:11:42]
- Episode 3: Exposing Greenwashing Claims [00:12:04 - 00:16:50]
- Introduction to greenwashing [00:12:10 - 00:13:00]
- Legal and regulatory aspects of greenwashing [00:13:00 - 00:14:19]
- Examples of greenwashing cases [00:14:19 - 00:15:08]
- Vague environmental claims and their scrutiny [00:15:08 - 00:16:02]
- Risks and impacts of greenwashing on companies [00:16:02 - 00:16:50]
- Episode 4: Quantum Computing's Impact on Internal Auditing [00:17:00 - 00:22:58]
- ntroduction to quantum computing [00:17:04 - 00:17:34]
- Impact of quantum computing on internal auditing [00:17:34 - 00:18:23]
- Malicious use and cybersecurity risks [00:18:23 - 00:19:26]
- Current state and future potential of quantum computing [00:19:26 - 00:20:24]
- Security risks and workforce training for auditors [00:20:24 - 00:22:58]
- Episode 5: Combating Financial Crime with AI [00:23:03 - 00:26:37]
- Introduction to AI in financial crime detection [00:23:18 - 00:24:08]
- Benefits of AI in transaction monitoring [00:24:08 - 00:25:03]
- Screening systems and reducing false positives [00:25:03 - 00:25:52]
- Training AI systems and cybersecurity considerations [00:25:52 - 00:26:37]
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