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Ep. 15: Style and an impossible clog invention after menopause with Isobel Schofield of Bryr Studio

Closet Philosophy

Release Date: 07/21/2025

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In this honest and often funny conversation, Jennine and Kristen talk with Isobel Schofield, founder of the iconic clog brand Bryr Studio, about style, aging, menopause, and power. The episode opens with Kristen’s reflections on how her personal style has evolved post-menopause — from abandoning painful heels to embracing the liberating truth of wearing clothes that actually fit.

Then Isobel joins the conversation, and the three dive into how personal style is shaped not just by bodies, but by generational values, cultural shifts, and an ever-present questioning of the patriarchy. From her roots in sculpture and theater design to building a slow fashion brand in San Francisco, Isobel shares the winding path that led to Bryr — and how the creation of her now-iconic “Chonk” shoe became a reclaiming of creative power.

Along the way, they unpack everything from Gen X fashion DNA, London vs. New York style archetypes, menopause visibility, and the radical power of not giving a f*ck. You’ll laugh, you’ll nod furiously, and you might measure yourself for a bathing suit by the end.

Guest:
Isobel Schofield — Founder & Creative Director of Bryr

Topics Discussed:

  • How menopause affects personal style and self-perception

  • Gen X fashion identity and cultural attitude

  • The cultural invisibility of older women and how we fight it

  • Designing fashion as a feminist and creative act

  • Reimagining aging as power, not decline

Where to find Isobel & Bryr: