Closet Philosophy
Think it doesn’t matter what you wear? Hosts Jennine Jacob and Kristen Philipkoski uncover the ways your personal style is not just personal. What you choose to wear every day is a political act, whether you’re aware of it or not. And putting thought into your personal style is not superficial, unintelligent, or a waste of time. Along with guests including bestselling authors, scientists, entrepreneurs, and more, the Closet Philosophy podcast explores how what we wear influences and reveals what’s within.
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Ep. 39: Author Christine Morrison on how style has guided her life decisions—from relationships to where she lives to her career and publishing her first book at 56
03/29/2026
Ep. 39: Author Christine Morrison on how style has guided her life decisions—from relationships to where she lives to her career and publishing her first book at 56
We are so excited to welcome author Christine Morrison to the pod this week! Christine is a seasoned writer, editor, and brand builder who recenlty published her first book, a fashion essay collection entitled Clothes Minded: Fashionable Essays About Finding Yourself. As you'll hear in the conversation, the title is apt. Fashion was Christine's guiding light when it came to which boyfriends to dump and which jobs to move accross the ountry for. And style is still leading the way—she explores on her substack what it means to value personal style into your 50s and beyond. In this episode, we discuss an unfortunate encounter with a orange and black windowpane suit, more than one sub-optimal boyfriend, her time at Calvin Klein (just a few years after Caroline Bessette graced the brands hallways), and more tidbits that will make you want to pick up her book to get more juicy details. We hope you enjoy this episode and if you do, we'd be so grateful if you wrote a review!
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Ep. 38: What to wear over 50—don't Google it
03/22/2026
Ep. 38: What to wear over 50—don't Google it
This will not be a surprise to anyone who’s been following along with the pod: We think fashion rules, especially when they correspond to age, are really dumb and you should ignore them. It’s shocking to us that these rules persist, and saddens us that when a woman Google’s “how to dress after 50,” she is fed all sorts of nonsense. For this episode, we dive into those Google results. We walk you through why the results are a travesty, and what to do instead. The main takeaway? “F*ck you Lloyd.” We hope you enjoy this episode, and if you do please leave us a review. We’d be so grateful!
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Ep. 37: What happens when you wear the wrong thing?
03/15/2026
Ep. 37: What happens when you wear the wrong thing?
The desire for acceptance and belonging is deeply human. And fashion is one way that we signal who we are and what group we belong to. So it's not weird to freak out a little bit if you find yourself at an event wearing something that feels way different from everyone else. In this episode, Kristen describes a recent occasion when she had exactly that experience. Even at 57 and with a lifetime of getting dressed behind her, she still freaked out a little! Jennine offers some perspective and tips on how to get dressed so that it's less likely to happen, and when it does, how to remain calm. We discuss: What Planet of the Apes can teach us about the need to feel accepted How to get dressed based on how you want to feel Internal versus external locus of control How to avoid the vortex of changing 25 times before you leave the house How trying to "dress for the occasion" can backfire And lots more! We hope you enjoy this episode, and please leave us a review if you do!
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Ep. 36: Your insecurity is probably your superpower
03/08/2026
Ep. 36: Your insecurity is probably your superpower
We all can be really hard on ourselves at times. And it’s no wonder, with messages all around us about the things we should really fix on our faces and bodies. Its never-ending, espcially on social media. But what if we embraced our perceived flaws and recognized them as superpowers. Whether it’s a large, distinctive nose or earned lines on your face, letting go of the insecurities we tend to feel around these characteristics can be magical. It’s much easier said than done, of course. On this week’s episode, Jennine and Kristen talk about ways to approach embracing your insecurities and all of the things that make you uniquely you. Please let us know if you have ideas for future episodes! And if you like the podcast, we’d be super grateful for a quick review. See you next week!
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Ep. 35: Alicia Rose is giving menopause the punk rock treatment it needs
03/01/2026
Ep. 35: Alicia Rose is giving menopause the punk rock treatment it needs
Our guest this week is , who is bringing a revolution to the conversation about perimenopause and menopause with an upcoming documentary called . The film will examine the travesty of the Women’s Health Initiative through a decidedly GenX lens. In 2002, the WHI was halted with reports of increased breast cancer risk linked to hormone therapy. We know now that the analysis of the data was deeply flawed. Still, the majority of the women who at the time were reaping the benefits of HRT abruptly stopped taking it. Hormone replacement held an undeserved stigma for the next 24 (and counting) years. Jennine and Kristen talk to Alicia about how she discovered this (and more) as she researched her own symptoms and possible treatments. And how it pissed her off. With a background in filmmaking, photography, and music, she began developing a documentary—Menopunks—to shatter the myths and defiantly shine a light on the truth. She’s bringing together doctors and punk rockers for a unique look at the vilification of hormone therapy and how GenX women can reclaim our health as we age. Also check out the ! Please let us know what you think of this episode by following and reviewing us on !
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Ep. 34: Style cheerleader and Sr. UX director Asta Gaur on how to dress for the occasion, the location, and still be fully you
02/22/2026
Ep. 34: Style cheerleader and Sr. UX director Asta Gaur on how to dress for the occasion, the location, and still be fully you
Asta Gaur is a Google exec by day and your internet style cheerleader by night. On , she shares unfiltered takes on dressing in a male-dominated industry, daily GRWMs showing how she dresses intuitively, and the mindset shifts women can take to stop playing small with their style. This week on Closet Philosophy, Jennine and Kristen go deep into Asta’s styling process and what she’s learned about getting dressed by wearing what feels completely her to her job as a Sr. UX director at Google. We talk about the male gaze, the many problems with “flattering,” and how she went from having two completely separate sets of clothing for work and the rest of her life to integrating her closet into one kickass wardrobe. Asta’s confidence and presence is infectious and inspiring—we both came out of the interview ready to style the heck out of our next outfit, and feel totally OK if someone called it “interesting.” You can also find Asta on her popular Substack, , where she breaks down detailed frameworks and the psychology behind why outfits work—so women can dress without self-doubt, ditch the male-gaze rules we grew up with, and build a closet full of items that are uniquely them. Join us to learn more about Asta, and get some tips to make you feel not just more stylish but more like you next time you get dressed for work! And please like, follow, and comment if you enjoy this episode!
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Ep. 33: Dress for the Life You're Actually Living
02/15/2026
Ep. 33: Dress for the Life You're Actually Living
In this episode, Jennine and Kristen talk about something that's often overlooked in personal style advice: how your wardrobe needs to match the life you're actually living, not just your Pinterest boards. Jennine shares her recent experience moving from San Francisco's busy Mission District to the quieter, beach-adjacent Sunset neighborhood—and how it's making her completely rethink her wardrobe. City loafers don't work on sandy beach paths, and those pristine sneakers aren't cutting it on dirt trails. Her style is evolving out of necessity, and it's raising a bigger question: are you dressing for your real life, or for some imaginary version of it? The conversation digs into why so many of us collect inspiration for outfits that would never actually work in our day-to-day routines. We pin quiet luxury looks while working from home in sweats. We save "mob wife" aesthetics while living in Silicon Valley. The disconnect is real. Jennine and Kristen discuss: • How your environment should directly influence your wardrobe choices • The trap of aesthetic trends that have nothing to do with your actual activities • Why you might be boring yourself with your own closet (hint: you're not honoring your actual life) • How to handle special events without the last-minute shopping panic • What our grandmothers can teach us about getting dressed with intention—even when staying home • The difference between dressing for what other people think vs. what you want to communicate about yourself This episode is for anyone who's ever felt like their closet doesn't match their life, or who's struggled to translate style inspiration into clothes they'll actually wear. It's a reminder that the most stylish thing you can do is dress authentically for the life you're living right now. Got questions? Suggestions? Email us at
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Ep. 32: What happens when you stop trying to be pretty
02/08/2026
Ep. 32: What happens when you stop trying to be pretty
In this episode of Closet Philosophy, Kristen and Jennine explore what it means to age visibly, dress authentically, and resist the pressure to always be striving for youth and prettiness. We start with a reflection on the cultural impact of Catherine O’Hara, her premature passing, and the rare visibility of older women who embrace their faces, bodies, and style without apology. From there, we dive into a wide-ranging discussion about beauty standards, midlife identity, and the complicated relationship many women have with being seen. We unpack how personal style can serve as both armor and self-expression—and why midlife is often the moment when women finally begin dressing for themselves rather than for approval. The episode also touches on: How media and celebrity culture shape expectations of aging The politics of visibility for women over 50 Why confidence often grows as the pressure to please fades The role of clothing in reclaiming identity during life transitions Letting go of “flattering” rules that were never designed for real bodies As always, Closet Philosophy reminds listeners that getting dressed is never just about clothes. It’s about power, self-definition, and the freedom to show up in the world exactly as you are. Connect with us!Follow along for more conversations about personal style, aging, and cultural shifts. Share this episode with a friend who’s rethinking what it means to be visible and fully expressed in midlife!
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Ep. 31: From big tech and law to gold and clay: Two founders on creativity, identity, and the courage to pivot
02/01/2026
Ep. 31: From big tech and law to gold and clay: Two founders on creativity, identity, and the courage to pivot
What does it really take to leave a prestigious, intellectually demanding career and step fully into a creative life? Two women who did exactly that join us for this episode of Closet Philosophy. Erin Hupp and Subikksha Balaje come from wildly different professional backgrounds (law and data science, respectively), yet both found their way back to creativity through clay, metal, and a pull toward working with their hands. Erin Hupp is a former child welfare and land use lawyer who now runs in the San Francisco Bay Area, creating sculptural dinnerware, lighting, and objects for restaurants and private clients. Subikksha Balaje grew up in Chennai, India, built a successful career in Big Tech, and later launched , a fine jewelry brand rooted in storytelling, cultural memory, and wearable art. Recently, Erin and Subikksha collaborated on a stunning fine jewelry collection that transforms Erin’s signature folded ceramic forms into silver and gold—future heirlooms that honor both precision and imperfection. Together, we talk about: Why midlife can be a powerful creative awakening—not a crisis The vulnerability of shedding a “serious” professional identity Imposter syndrome (before and after success) How collaboration sparks ideas AI never could The tension between perfection and imperfection in handmade work Why stories matter more than ever in a tech-saturated world And how personal style, craft, and creativity are deeply human acts of resistance This conversation is a love letter to creative courage, curiosity, and the belief that it’s never too late to claim who you really are. Whether you’re considering a pivot, craving more creativity, or simply want to hear how two artists think about meaning, work, and making—this episode is for you.
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Ep. 30: Less is really more: Limitations are the secret to better style
01/25/2026
Ep. 30: Less is really more: Limitations are the secret to better style
In this episode of Closet Philosophy, Kristen and Jennine dig into a counterintuitive idea: less really can be more — especially when it comes to personal style. Jennine shares how her attempt to curb overconsumption led her to experiment with a 40-piece wardrobe ecosystem, not as a deprivation tactic, but as a creative framework. What started as a practical solution quickly became a powerful way to clarify her style, reduce spending, and build confidence. Together, Kristen and Jennine explore how creative limitations fuel innovation across disciplines—from art and graphic design to filmmaking and fashion. They discuss why having guardrails doesn’t stifle self-expression, but actually sharpens it, using examples from Bottega Veneta’s woven leather legacy to iconic brands like Ace & Jig and even the cult-classic Clueless wardrobe. The conversation also turns personal, touching on the emotional weight of holding onto clothes (and stuff), the fear of making decisions, and how trusting your taste is a skill—one that gets easier with age and experience. Whether you’re navigating a no-buy season, overwhelmed by trends, or trying to define a signature look that actually fits your life, this episode reframes style as something deeper than shopping. Because great style isn’t about having more, it’s about knowing yourself. In this episode, we cover: Why limitations can unlock creativity, not kill it How a 40-piece wardrobe helps clarify personal style Overconsumption, thrifting, and the myth of “more is better” The emotional side of letting go of clothes Trusting your taste—and why confidence is the secret ingredient What fashion, film, interiors, and branding all have in common If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Questions or love notes? Email us at
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Ep. 29: How to find your style by editing, not adding to your closet
01/18/2026
Ep. 29: How to find your style by editing, not adding to your closet
In this episode of Closet Philosophy, Jennine and Kristen explore one of the most misunderstood ideas in personal style: that having more clothes actually makes getting dressed harder, not easier. What begins as a conversation about Kristen’s long-standing 70s, bohemian California aesthetic opens into a much deeper discussion about identity, decision fatigue, creativity, and why true personal style comes from editing rather than accumulation. Jennine shares how style is not about finding the perfect piece or chasing trends, but about making intentional decisions. Drawing parallels between writing, design, and wardrobe building, she explains why constraints are essential for creativity and how an overflowing closet can block clarity rather than inspire it. Together, they unpack the psychological weight of “maybe someday” clothes, the myth of endless options, and how a tightly edited wardrobe ecosystem can free up mental space, time, and confidence. The conversation also touches on belonging versus fitting in, the role of comfort in looking “cool,” and why style should ultimately work for your life, not demand constant attention. This episode is for anyone who feels overwhelmed by their closet, stuck in style limbo, or exhausted by the pressure to keep up. It’s an invitation to stop looking outward for answers and start trusting yourself. Topics covered: Why style is a decision-making process, not an aesthetic label The connection between editing, creativity, and confidence How too many clothing options create decision fatigue The concept of a “wardrobe ecosystem” and seasonal rotation Letting go of clothes that don’t reflect who you are now How constraints help you develop personal style signatures Shifting from “How do I look?” to “How do I feel like me?” If getting dressed feels harder than it should, this episode will change how you think about your closet—and yourself.
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Ep. 28: Season 2 kickoff! Why Shopping Won't Give You Good Style (and What Will)
01/11/2026
Ep. 28: Season 2 kickoff! Why Shopping Won't Give You Good Style (and What Will)
We're kicking off season 2 of Closet Philosophy with a conversation about overconsumption, emotional shopping, and the cultural forces that keep us chasing “more.” Jennine shares a personal reckoning: years of daily thrifting, racks sagging with clothes, garbage bags stuffed into closets — all while telling her audience they didn’t need to shop. What started as reselling and “style experimentation” slowly revealed itself as something else: a way to soothe anxiety, regulate emotions, and chase an external version of identity. Together, Kristen and Jennine unpack why this isn’t a personal failure — and why so many of us feel stuck in the same cycle. We explore: Why thrift culture isn’t always sustainable The massive labor and environmental cost of donated clothing How only a fraction of clothing ever gets worn again Why dopamine feels like “style” — but isn’t How propaganda and psychology trained us to shop for identity The role of algorithms, influencers, and targeted desire Jennine introduces her , a turning point that helped her stop chasing trends and start wearing what she already owned. The restriction inherent in a 40-piece wardrobe led to clarity. The conversation widens into belonging, people-pleasing, and the liberation that comes from choosing yourself — in your closet, your work, and your life. Kristen shares parallel experiences from teaching Pilates and learning to release the impossible task of being liked by everyone. This episode isn’t about minimalism or moralizing consumption. It’s about understanding the systems we’re operating inside — and creating enough awareness to pause, choose differently, and reconnect with who we actually are. Season 2 will continue exploring creativity, personal style, and how to step off the hamster wheel of trends — without giving up joy, expression, or beauty. We’d love to hear from you: How has shopping shown up in your life? What have you learned on the other side of overconsumption?
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Ep. 27: Jennine's tips on how to rescue, restore, and love your clothes again
10/20/2025
Ep. 27: Jennine's tips on how to rescue, restore, and love your clothes again
In this episode of Closet Philosophy, Kristen and Jennine dive deep into the art and satisfaction of caring for your wardrobe. From repairing damaged handbags to reviving old leather jackets and removing stubborn stains, Jennine shares practical, proven methods to extend the life of your favorite garments. What we cover in this episode: How Jeannine learned to restore thrifted clothing and leather goods through reselling Easy DIY fixes for suede shoes, handbags, and faded leather jackets Using household products—like dish soap and vinegar—for cleaning and stain removal Tricks to rescue shrunken or misshapen clothes Preventing mildew, odor, and dust mites in stored clothing Thoughtful ways to repurpose furs and keep your accessories organized Caring for your clothes doesn’t require fancy tools or professional skills—just curiosity, patience, and a few smart products. With these methods, your closet can become more sustainable, organized, and personal.
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Ep. 26: Beyond body positivity—A conversation about body liberation with Chrissy King
10/13/2025
Ep. 26: Beyond body positivity—A conversation about body liberation with Chrissy King
In this episode, Jennine and Kristen speak with writer, speaker, and educator Chrissy King, author of The Body Liberation Project. Chrissy dives deep into how fashion, fitness, and wellness intersect with social justice, race, and body image. The conversation moves beyond “body positivity,” exploring body liberation as systemic social change—not just self-love. Listeners will learn why true inclusion requires rethinking everything from clothing access to medical practices, and how concepts of beauty and thinness are tied to politics and control. Chrissy merges expertise in social justice, sociology, and fitness coaching. With work published in Shape, Health South, and POPSUGAR, Chrissy empowers all bodies to take up space and redefines wellness as collective liberation. We discuss: The limits of body positivity vs. body liberation Systemic oppression and body-based bias Fatphobia and its cultural/political roots Health misconceptions and lived experience Serena Williams, Lizzo, and representation Age, menopause, and changing bodies Inclusion in fashion and fitness industries Social justice and intersectionality Coping strategies in today’s culture wars Books and accounts for further reading Quotes: “Body liberation is less about loving everything you see in the mirror, and more about understanding the vessel you live in is always worthy of respect.” “Thinness and beauty standards are less about health, and more about control.” “Representation helps people of every size, age, and identity give themselves permission to be seen.” Takeaways and resources: Follow Chrissy King’s work for deeper dives into intersectionality and body acceptance. Recommended reads: The Body Liberation Project by Chrissy King, The Beauty Mythby Naomi Wolf, Fearing the Black Body by Sabrina Strings. Explore body-positive and size-inclusive influencers, and seek supportive communities both online and offline for healing.
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Ep. 25: Plus size representation, photography, and finding beauty in every body with Lydia Hudgens
10/06/2025
Ep. 25: Plus size representation, photography, and finding beauty in every body with Lydia Hudgens
In this episode, Kristen and Jennine talk with photographer Lydia Hudgens, whose new book Plus: Expanding the Frame features 100% plus-size models and is the first of its kind. Lydia shares her journey from street-style photographer to celebrating body diversity through her lens, the state of plus-size representation in fashion today, and how posing can empower confidence for every body type. They also explore how the rise of GLP-1 weight loss drugs, post-pandemic beauty standards, and internalized fatphobia are reshaping conversations about body image and inclusivity. Lydia discusses her modeling classes, why she believes representation matters across generations, and how her work helps people see the beauty in themselves that they might have forgotten was there. We discuss: The inspiration behind Plus: Expanding the Frame How fashion’s body inclusivity has backslid in recent years The impact of GLP-1 drugs on representation and body image “Aspirational plus size,” and why it’s problematic How age, tattoos, and size intersect in modeling Why posing can help you feel more confident and connected to your body The message Lydia hopes her book will leave with readers Guest: Lydia Hudgens — photographer, model, and advocate for body diversity. Her work has appeared in Vogue, Teen Vogue, Glamour, and more, and her clients include Anthropologie, Reformation, and Rent the Runway. Her book Plus: Expanding the Frame is available now. Follow Lydia: Instagram: (photography) (modeling) Buy Lydia’s book:
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Ep 24: Jennine and Kristen explore beauty, aging, and authenticity
09/22/2025
Ep 24: Jennine and Kristen explore beauty, aging, and authenticity
Ep. 24: Exploring beauty, aging, and authenticity In this episode of Closet Philosophy, Jennine and Kristen dive deep into the complicated relationship between beauty standards, aging, and authenticity. The conversation weaves together personal stories, cultural analysis, and feminist perspectives to unpack the pressures women face to look younger, thinner, or more polished—and the freedom that can come from rejecting those expectations. From hair extensions and Botox to the social media anti-aging industrial complex, the hosts examine how personal choices intersect with social norms, capitalism, and patriarchy. They reflect on when beauty practices can feel empowering and when they cross into performative territory. The discussion expands into history and culture, touching on icons like Marilyn Monroe, Twiggy, Madonna, and Serena Williams, as well as how older women are represented—or erased—in media and literature. Ultimately, Jennine and Kristen underscore the power of visibility and authenticity: showing up as yourself not only challenges beauty standards but also gives others permission to do the same. If you’ve ever questioned where the line lies between self-expression and societal pressure, this episode will resonate. Notes: This is the that Jennine mentions.
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Ep. 23: Midlife career reinvention, authentic style, and navigating change with Dilara Casey
09/15/2025
Ep. 23: Midlife career reinvention, authentic style, and navigating change with Dilara Casey
In this episode of Closet Philosophy, hosts Jennine and Kristen sit down with career consultant Dilara Casey to explore what it takes to reinvent your career and style in midlife. Even if you've taken a decade out from your career, Dilara has tops for everything from making confident pivots to navigating ageism. She shares practical strategies for reframing your story, updating your resume, and embracing change with authenticity. She also opens up about reclaiming personal style during challenging times and why staying true to your look can be a source of power. The conversation touches on AI’s impact on the workplace, the importance of human creativity, and how Equipped Women is helping close the gender gap. What you’ll learn: First steps for successful career pivots How to position volunteer work and nontraditional experience as strengths Concrete strategies to combat ageism and claim your value Why authentic personal style fuels confidence and reinvention Follow Dilara: Check out her novel, Subscribe for weekly new episodes packed with style, strategy, and real-life encouragement for authentic self-expression!
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Ep. 22: Menopause, perimenopause, and personal power with 'The M Factor' producer Denise Pines
09/08/2025
Ep. 22: Menopause, perimenopause, and personal power with 'The M Factor' producer Denise Pines
In this episode of Closet Philosophy, hosts Jennine and Kristen sit down with Denise Pines, an influential filmmaker and leader in the effort to normalize conversations about perimenopause and menopause. She’s a Peabody-winning filmmaker, health advocate, founder of Tea Botanics and WisePause Wellness, and president of the Osteopathic Medical Board of California. Together, they unravel the cultural silence around menopause and perimenopause, discuss Denise’s influential documentaries (The M Factor and upcoming Before the Pause, and explore how personal style, society, and women's health intersect. Highlights Denise’s personal and professional journey in women’s health, filmmaking, and advocacy The impact of The M Factor and the new focus on perimenopause in Before the Pause Why perimenopause and menopause remain so misunderstood—and what has to change in medicine and culture The legislative fight to improve menopause training for doctors in California (AB 360 and beyond) Common but rarely discussed menopause symptoms, and why early education matters How Denise balances her multifaceted career and the wellness routines that keep her energized When Denise met Prince (!) How aging changes personal expression, style, and purpose Connect with Denise: If this episode resonated, don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and share Closet Philosophy with your friends!
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Ep. 21: Jennine and Kristen on the power of visibility after 40
09/02/2025
Ep. 21: Jennine and Kristen on the power of visibility after 40
Jennine and Kristen dive deep into the complex experience of visibility for women as they age, sharing candid stories and discussing cultural, psychological, and societal shifts that impact self-expression and confidence beyond 40. This episode explores the challenges women face in retaining visibility, feeling confident, and expressing authentic style, offering hope and actionable insights for listeners. Key Topics: The first personal experiences of feeling invisible: Jennine and Kristen recount moments in retail and influencer settings where age influenced how they were treated. The myth that women’s value revolves around youth and male attention, and the shifting priorities toward self-authenticity in later years. Statistics from a menopause and aging study: Over two-thirds of women over 45 feel ignored by men in public spaces, and many cite issues like graying hair and access to fashionable clothing as confidence barriers. The challenge and power of speaking up: Including an incident at a coffee shop that went viral, and how fear of being labeled a "Karen" hinders self-advocacy for older women. Personal style as visibility: Discussion of how style can be a tool for self-expression and why hiding in “invisible” clothing is a missed opportunity during the most powerful years of women’s lives. Erasure of older women in media and fashion, contrasted with real examples of powerful, stylish women over 50, and how Hollywood continues to favor male experience at the expense of older female visibility. Breaking stereotypes: Examples from film, fashion, and real life illustrating authenticity, confidence, and visibility for women at any age. Quotes to Remember: “Women want to be seen for who they are now—not as a younger version of themselves.” “Visibility is not just about being seen by men; it’s about being recognized and respected in your own right.” “Now is the time to figure out what visibility means and how to pursue it with intention.” Call to Action: How do you want to be visible? Share your story with us—we want to hear from listeners! Drop a comment or get in touch to join the conversation on confidence, style, and living authentically at every age.
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Ep. 20: Persistence and reinvention: Musician and creator Cat Pierce on creativity, confidence, and personal style
08/25/2025
Ep. 20: Persistence and reinvention: Musician and creator Cat Pierce on creativity, confidence, and personal style
In this episode of the Closet Philosophy podcast, hosts Jennine and Kristen sit down with Cat Pierce—writer, artist, entrepreneur, and musician, best known as half of the band . Cat shares her inspiring journey of continual reinvention, highlighting how creativity flourishes at every stage of life, especially beyond the age of 40. The conversation delves into themes of overcoming societal expectations, building inner and outer confidence, and finding empowerment through personal style, beauty rituals, and creative experimentation. Cat discusses launching her beauty and lifestyle brand, Omen, the viral “Higher Self Therapy” series on Instagram, and the importance of reframing midlife as a time of transformation and vibrancy. The episode also explores personal challenges Kat faced—such as stage fright, people-pleasing, and post-divorce healing—and how creativity and self-love underpin resilience. Listeners are encouraged to embrace play, reimagine what’s possible at every age, and nurture their creative spark to unlock personal and collective growth. Find Cat on , check out her skincare brand , and listen to her , and watch her !
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Ep. 19: Style, confidence, and redefining beauty with Angel Edme
08/18/2025
Ep. 19: Style, confidence, and redefining beauty with Angel Edme
This week on Closet Philosophy, Jennine and Kristen sit down with fashion creator Angel Edme. Her bold style and fearless approach to self-expression embody what it means to use style as self-expression. Angel Edme is a fashion, beauty, and lifestyle creator based in New York—known for her razor-sharp style, unfiltered honesty, and a deep passion for helping people show up as their boldest, truest selves. She started behind the camera as a storyteller, and now she’s in front of it—empowering real people to reclaim their confidence through fashion, skincare, and creative self-expression. Angel doesn’t just serve looks—she sparks transformation. Whether she’s sharing outfit inspiration, speaking truth on identity and visibility, or demystifying beauty standards, Angel brings style, and substance to everything she does. Get ready for a conversation on personal power, redefining beauty, and why what you wear is never just about clothes. Highlights include: How growing up shaped her approach to style. Why “styling principles” should be tools, not rules. Her process for mindful shopping and choosing pieces with versatility. The rise of African designers bringing bold creativity and inclusivity. Practical advice for anyone struggling with body image and confidence. Angel reminds us that the most stylish thing you can wear is self-love—and that what you wear is never just about clothes. 👉 Follow Angel on , , and , and check out her for her latest fashion, travel, and beauty insights.
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Ep. 18: Revealing yourself through style, story, and self-trust with model and author Alicia Johnson
08/12/2025
Ep. 18: Revealing yourself through style, story, and self-trust with model and author Alicia Johnson
in this inspiring conversation, we talk with Alicia Johnson—global marketing strategist, Ford model, and author of . Alicia shares how she re-entered the modeling world in her 60s through a twist of serendipity, the challenges and biases that still exist for older plus-size women in fashion, and how personal style can be a radical act of self-acceptance. We explore the deeper meaning of authenticity, why self-trust is the foundation of showing up fully, and how movement—not dieting—can be a key to reclaiming joy. Alicia also offers practical tools for reconnecting with your body, noticing where emotions live physically, and using clothing to express your most powerful self. Other highlights include: The magical story of Alicia’s unexpected contract with Ford Models The ongoing cultural double standard for older women’s bodies How hope differs from optimism (and why it matters) Practical style advice from tailoring to designer investment pieces Why authenticity is an active, ongoing practice—not a buzzword If you’ve ever wondered how personal style intersects with healing, agency, and joy, this episode will leave you feeling empowered to reveal yourself—inside and out. Find Alicia online: | Instagram & Substack:
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Ep. 17: Leah Elson on Science, Style, and Showing Up Fully As Yourself
08/04/2025
Ep. 17: Leah Elson on Science, Style, and Showing Up Fully As Yourself
In this episode we are very thrilled to talk with Leah Elson—scientist, author, and viral science communicator—about the power of showing up fully as yourself, whether in a lab coat or a leather jackets. Leah has degrees from Harvard, Johns Hopkins, and USC, and has published more than 87 scientific manuscripts. But she’s just as known for her incredible eyeliner, tattoos, and bold, unapologetic personal style. We talk with her about how embracing her full self—pink hair and all—actually enhanced her work as a neuroscientist. We cover: Why personal style isn’t superficial—it’s essential, especially for women in male-dominated fields. The science behind gut health, nerve regeneration, and outer space. Her book There Are No Stupid Questions in Science, why she illustrated it with crayons, and how it came to be. Her journey from surviving a tumultuous upbringing to becoming a global role model. AI, AGI, and how human creativity might be the last frontier. This one is inspiring, enlightening, and packed with ideas about fashion, feminism, trauma, science, and how all of it connects. Mentioned in this episode: Leah’s favorite eyeliner Miracle Balm by Jones Road Leah’s book: There Are No Stupid Questions in Science Follow Leah: 🎧 Listen now wherever you get your podcasts!
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Ep. 16: Jennine and Kristen on reinventing yourself: fashion, work, and meaning in midlife
07/28/2025
Ep. 16: Jennine and Kristen on reinventing yourself: fashion, work, and meaning in midlife
Welcome to a special episode of Closet Philosophy where Jennine and Kristen open up about the challenges and rewards of reinventing yourself—especially after taking a work break to care for family or shifting gears in midlife. They share their personal journeys of returning to the workforce, navigating ageism, career gaps, and finding new purpose. In this episode, we discuss: Personal experiences of leaving and re-entering the workforce after motherhood or caretaking The surprising roadblocks and opportunities that come with a career gap Ageism and the difficulties faced by midlife women in today’s job market The importance of meaningful work, creativity, and autonomy—and why these are non-negotiable for some Why so many women turn to entrepreneurship in their 40s, 50s, and beyond (with fresh statistics!) How personal style is a secret networking weapon and catalyst for engaging with the world The unique struggle (and privilege) of figuring out what you really want from work at this stage of life The power of community: you are not alone in your quest for reinvention! Resources & Mentions: an organization supporting midlife women re-entering the workforce on career breaks and entrepreneurship Whether you're feeling invisible, itching for a new chapter, or struggling to make your experience relevant, you'll find humor, hope, and good company in this conversation. Be seen—by your community, and by yourself! Share your story! Have you tried to return to traditional work and ended up an entrepreneur? Are you struggling with finding purpose or translating your experience? Email us or leave a review—your story could inspire a future episode!
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Ep. 15: Style and an impossible clog invention after menopause with Isobel Schofield of Bryr Studio
07/21/2025
Ep. 15: Style and an impossible clog invention after menopause with Isobel Schofield of Bryr Studio
In this honest and often funny conversation, Jennine and Kristen talk with Isobel Schofield, founder of the iconic clog brand Bryr Studio, about style, aging, menopause, and power. The episode opens with Kristen’s reflections on how her personal style has evolved post-menopause — from abandoning painful heels to embracing the liberating truth of wearing clothes that actually fit. Then Isobel joins the conversation, and the three dive into how personal style is shaped not just by bodies, but by generational values, cultural shifts, and an ever-present questioning of the patriarchy. From her roots in sculpture and theater design to building a slow fashion brand in San Francisco, Isobel shares the winding path that led to Bryr — and how the creation of her now-iconic “Chonk” shoe became a reclaiming of creative power. Along the way, they unpack everything from Gen X fashion DNA, London vs. New York style archetypes, menopause visibility, and the radical power of not giving a f*ck. You’ll laugh, you’ll nod furiously, and you might measure yourself for a bathing suit by the end. Guest: Isobel Schofield — Founder & Creative Director of Topics Discussed: How menopause affects personal style and self-perception Gen X fashion identity and cultural attitude The cultural invisibility of older women and how we fight it Designing fashion as a feminist and creative act Reimagining aging as power, not decline Where to find Isobel & Bryr: Website: Instagram:
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Ep.. 14: You can’t hate yourself into a body you love: Reclaiming health and power with Oonagh Duncan
07/14/2025
Ep.. 14: You can’t hate yourself into a body you love: Reclaiming health and power with Oonagh Duncan
What if your fitness journey wasn’t about chasing a smaller body—but about feeling strong, energized, and alive? In this empowering episode, we talk to Oonagh Duncan, multi-award-winning fitness expert, bestselling author of Healthy As Fck* (aka Ditch the Diet), and founder of the Feel Good Movement. We dive deep into what it really means to feel good in your body—at any size, at any age—and how fitness can help us reconnect with our power. Oonagh shares her journey from fat activist and actor to fitness leader, and how she’s redefining health for Gen X women and beyond. She breaks down why habits—not willpower—create change, how movement is a form of self-respect, and why no one ever achieved lasting transformation through shame. Whether you’re feeling stuck, struggling with body image, or just ready to feel good again, this episode is for you. Topics We Cover: Why self-hate doesn’t lead to body love Oonagh’s surprising path from fat activism to fitness The myth of willpower—and what actually works Why consistency beats intensity How strength training builds more than muscle—it builds identity Moving through menopause, burnout, and the “I’ve lost myself” feeling The truth about HIIT, cortisol, and over-40 fitness fears How fashion and fitness intersect as tools of empowerment Resources Mentioned:
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Ep. 13: Tattoos, piercings, and style as self-expression with Marie McCarthy
07/07/2025
Ep. 13: Tattoos, piercings, and style as self-expression with Marie McCarthy
💎 Guest: Marie McCarthy Founder of and Piercing & Tattoo In this episode, personal stylist Jennine Jacob and fashion journalist Kristen Philipkoski talk with Marie McCarthy, founder of fine jewelry store Fiat Lux and Rose Gold’s Piercing and Tattoo in San Francisco. Marie shares how jewelry, tattoos, and piercings can be forms of power, rebellion, self-love, and pure fun—especially as we age. We discuss: Why women are getting piercings and tattoos later in life How style is about how you feel, not just how you look Using clothes and accessories as a language to communicate your mood, politics, or power How trends reflect society and why Marie ignores them Her personal style “rules” (hello, black skinny jeans forever) Why accessories are the secret to feeling cool in any outfit Instagram:
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Ep. 12: How clothes spark connection: friendship, vulnerability, and personal style with Danielle Bayard Jackson
07/02/2025
Ep. 12: How clothes spark connection: friendship, vulnerability, and personal style with Danielle Bayard Jackson
In this episode, personal stylist Jennine Jacob and fashion journalist Kristen Philipkoski talk with Danielle Bayard Jackson, friendship coach and author of Fighting for Our Friendships. They explore how what we wear can open the door to meaningful connections—and how friendships shape (and are shaped by) our personal style. Danielle breaks down her three affinities framework—symmetry, support, and secrecy—revealing why women’s friendships are so powerful yet often fragile. She shares how style plays into first impressions and why dressing to express yourself authentically is a form of vulnerability that can actually fast-track finding your people. They discuss: Why women’s friendships dissolve at a higher rate than men’s How wearing something “conversation-worthy” invites connection Why friendships sometimes fade after big life shifts Scripts for repairing friendship missteps The power of showing up as yourself, even if it risks rejection Guest: 👭 Danielle Bayard Jackson – friendship educator, speaker, and author of Fighting for Our Friendships. Find her work at . Listen if you want to: ✨ Feel more confident approaching new people ✨ Understand why friendships sometimes drift ✨ Explore how your style choices impact your social life ✨ Learn practical scripts to navigate common friendship pitfalls
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Ep. 11: Gem app founder Liisa Jokinen on the joy of second hand clothing and documenting personal style around the world
06/23/2025
Ep. 11: Gem app founder Liisa Jokinen on the joy of second hand clothing and documenting personal style around the world
This week on Closet Philosophy, we talk with Finnish street style archivist, photographer, and founder of the Gem app, Liisa Jokinen. Liisa has been documenting what people wear on the street for more than 20 years—and in doing so, she’s built a visual time capsule of personal expression, cultural shifts, and everyday creativity. In this episode, we dig into: How second-hand shopping is freedom How clothing choices offer clues about identity, mood, and values What changed when she moved from Helsinki to New York How she developed the Gem app for vintage and secondhand shopping Why older women are some of the most exciting dressers And how to cultivate your own style voice over time Liisa also shares her philosophy on dressing for yourself, what makes a great outfit, and why individuality—not trends—is the future of fashion. Find Liisa: Street style archivist and founder of Explore her photos: Instagram: , and
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Ep. 10: The power of pattern: Artist Windy Chien on knots, creativity, and control
06/16/2025
Ep. 10: The power of pattern: Artist Windy Chien on knots, creativity, and control
Artist and former Apple exec Windy Chien joins Closet Philosophy this week to talk about how she left a high-profile tech job to follow a totally different thread—literally. Windy became world-renowned for her intricate and sculptural knot work, which she began exploring during her transformative project The Year of Knots. In this conversation, we dive into the parallels between fiber and fashion, the deeper meaning of making things with your hands, and how creativity becomes a form of identity, discipline, and even rebellion. We explore: How tying knots helped Windy reclaim authorship of her life The connection between personal style and artistic voice Why repetition is powerful—and not boring What it means to be a beginner on purpose What she loves about getting older (and no one tells you about) And why constraints can be the key to freedom Windy also shares her take on aging, being a late bloomer, and how we don’t need to retire our style as we get older. Find Windy: Artist & author of See her work: Follow her on Instagram:
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