Episode 37 | Caring For Relatives When They Didn't Care For You
Cults and the Culting of America
In this episode of Cults and the Culting of America, host Scot Loyd and guest Jonathan Hirsch delve into the complexities of growing up in a cult-like environment, specifically under the influence of Franklin Jones. They explore the allure of charismatic leaders, the sacrifices made by children in these settings, and the long-term emotional impacts on individuals raised in such communities. Jonathan shares his personal journey, including the challenges of reconciling his upbringing with his current life, and the importance of understanding the experiences of cult kids. The conversation...
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Episode 36 | Yogaville
Cults and the Culting of America
In this episode, Scott and Daniella engage with Brianna, who shares her profound journey through the world of yoga and her experiences at Yogaville, a yoga community that turned out to be more complex than it seemed. Brianna discusses her initial attraction to the community, the positive aspects she encountered, and the darker realities that unfolded over time, including manipulation, abuse, and the psychological toll of being involved in a cult-like environment. The conversation emphasizes the importance of trust, intuition, and the need for open discussions about both the good and bad...
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Episode 35 | AA From an Addiction Specialist
Cults and the Culting of America
In this episode, Scott Loyd and Daniela Mestyanek-Young engage in a deep conversation with Andi Wiseman about the nature of cults, particularly focusing on the military and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA). They explore the harmful aspects of 12-step programs, the intersection of addiction and systemic issues, and the importance of listening to survivors. The discussion highlights personal experiences with cult-like behavior in nonprofits and the need for a broader understanding of recovery beyond traditional frameworks. Andi's Links Daniella's Links: You can read all about my story in my book,...
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Episode 34 | Cult of Masculinity
Cults and the Culting of America
In this episode of Cults and the Culting of America, hosts Scot Loyd and Daniella Mesteneck Young engage in a profound conversation with Jack about the complexities of masculinity, the cultural constructs surrounding gender identity, and the emotional struggles faced by men in contemporary society. Jack shares his personal journey from a troubled upbringing to his work in men's circles, emphasizing the need for vulnerability, community, and a redefinition of masculinity that moves away from harmful stereotypes. The discussion explores the impact of societal expectations, the illusion of male...
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Episode 33 | Improvement Gurus
Cults and the Culting of America
In this episode of Cults and the Culting of America, host Scott Loyd and guest Daniela Mestenec Young engage in a deep conversation with Ben John about the self-help industry, misguided mentors, and the red flags associated with cult-like organizations. Ben shares his personal journey of being involved in a self-help group that he later recognized as a cult, discussing the tactics used by leaders to manipulate followers. The conversation explores the importance of discernment in seeking guidance, the emotional costs of leaving such groups, and the need for authenticity in personal growth....
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Episode 32 | Satanic Panic Debunked
Cults and the Culting of America
In this episode of Cults and the Culting of America, hosts Scott Loyd and Daniela Mesteneck Young engage in a profound conversation with Lydia Knight, who shares her harrowing experiences growing up in a cult. Lydia discusses the complexities of her upbringing, including themes of racism, the satanic panic, and the psychological impact of fear and control within cult dynamics. The conversation delves into the process of healing and deprogramming, the importance of reconnecting with family, and the empowerment that comes from leadership and coaching. Lydia's journey of transformation serves as...
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Episode 31 | Cult Situation Report
Cults and the Culting of America
In this episode of Cults and the Culting of America, hosts Scot Loyd and Daniella Mesteneck Young explore the current political climate in the U.S. and its parallels to cult dynamics. They discuss the rise of cult mentality, the deification of leaders, and the implications of executive power. The conversation emphasizes the importance of community, collective action, and the role of art in resisting oppressive governance. The hosts encourage listeners to engage with their communities and resist fear-driven narratives, highlighting the need for resilience and creativity in challenging times....
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Episode 30 | The DSM as a Weapon
Cults and the Culting of America
In this conversation, Daniella and Katie Keech explore the intersections of cult dynamics, mental health, and neurodiversity. They discuss the misdiagnosis of mental health disorders in cult survivors, the authoritarian nature of the DSM, and the importance of self-definition and community support. The conversation delves into the complexities of plurality, trauma, and identity, emphasizing the need for a nuanced understanding of these issues in a world that often seeks to categorize and control individuals. Daniella's Links: You can read all about my story in my book, Uncultured-- buy signed...
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Episode 29 | Asian American Apostate
Cults and the Culting of America
In this episode of Cults and the Culting of America, hosts Scot Loyd and Daniella Mesteneck Young engage in a deep conversation with Scott Okamoto, who shares his journey from evangelical Christianity to questioning the very foundations of his beliefs. The discussion touches on themes of identity, race, and the struggles of belonging within high-control groups. They explore the dynamics of critical thinking versus apologetics in Christian education, the impact of the model minority myth, and the role of empathy in Christianity. Scott reflects on his experiences teaching at a Christian...
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Episode 28 | Online Cult
Cults and the Culting of America
In this episode, Scott Loyd and Daniella Mestyneck Young engage in a deep conversation with Taylor Marie, a mental health therapist and cult survivor. Taylor shares her experiences with an online cult, discussing the similarities between online and in-person cults, the recruitment tactics used, and the psychological manipulation involved. The conversation explores the dynamics of charismatic leadership, the exploitation of belonging and purpose, and the red flags that led to Taylor's eventual departure from the cult. The discussion also touches on the importance of healthy leadership and the...
info_outlineIn this episode, Scott Loyd and Daniella Mestyneck Young engage in a deep conversation with Taylor Marie, a mental health therapist and cult survivor. Taylor shares her experiences with an online cult, discussing the similarities between online and in-person cults, the recruitment tactics used, and the psychological manipulation involved. The conversation explores the dynamics of charismatic leadership, the exploitation of belonging and purpose, and the red flags that led to Taylor's eventual departure from the cult. The discussion also touches on the importance of healthy leadership and the potential for spiritual practices to exist without devolving into cult-like behavior. In this conversation, Taylor Marie shares her harrowing experience of being involved in a cult-like astrology group, detailing the emotional turmoil and moral conflicts she faced. She discusses the manipulative tactics of the cult leader, the fear of leaving, and the subsequent backlash she received after her departure. The conversation highlights the importance of questioning authority and the role of social media in exposing harmful groups. Taylor's journey of self-discovery and the impact on her family dynamics are also explored, culminating in a powerful narrative of resilience and personal growth.
Daniella's Links:
You can read all about my story in my book, Uncultured-- buy signed copies here. https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured
For more info on me:
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Get an autographed copy of my book, Uncultured: https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured
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Daniella’s Tiktok: https://bit.ly/3V6GK6k / KnittingCultLady
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Unamerican video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/YTVideoBook
Secret Practice video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/3ZswGY8
Other Podcasts
Daniella's other podcast: Hey White Women
Takeaways
- Taylor Marie is a mental health therapist specializing in narcissistic abuse and cult recovery.
- Online cults operate similarly to in-person cults, with differences mainly in communication.
- Recruitment often occurs through social media platforms like TikTok, using charisma and confidence.
- The sense of belonging is a powerful tool used by cults to maintain control over members.
- Charismatic leaders often exploit followers' desires for purpose and belonging.
- Red flags include isolation from outside information and constant negative comparisons to others in the field.
- Healthy leadership promotes free thinking and allows for questioning and disagreement.
- Cults often take credit for the successes of their members, creating a cycle of dependency.
- Leaving a cult can feel like a crisis, as one's worldview is challenged and dismantled.
- It is possible to lead in spiritual practices without coercion or manipulation. The breaking point often comes when personal values clash with group beliefs.
- Questioning authority can lead to significant personal revelations.
- Leaving a cult can involve emotional and legal repercussions.
- Social media can amplify voices and expose harmful practices.
- The aftermath of leaving a cult can affect family relationships.
- Cult leaders often manipulate their followers through fear and guilt.
- It's important to recognize the signs of cult-like behavior in groups.
- Personal growth often follows the questioning of long-held beliefs.
- The experience of leaving a cult can be isolating and traumatic.
- Support from family and friends is crucial during the exit process.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Cults and Online Communities
01:32 Defining Online Cults
05:11 The Evolution of Relationships in the Digital Age
07:19 Recruitment Tactics in Online Cults
10:18 The Dynamics of Charismatic Leadership
12:21 The Exploitation of Belonging and Purpose
14:24 Red Flags and Realizations
21:55 Healthy Leadership vs. Cult Leadership
28:21 The Crisis of Leaving a Cult
28:46 The Breaking Point: Values and Morals in Conflict
31:24 Questioning Authority: The Cult Leader's Influence
34:04 The Cost of Leaving: Emotional and Legal Retaliation
43:53 Going Viral: The Power of Social Media in Exposing Cults
50:17 The Aftermath: Family Dynamics and Public Scrutiny
Produced by Haley Phillips