Episode 38 | Starbucks and Corporate Cults
Cults and the Culting of America
Release Date: 05/13/2025
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In this episode, Dr. Cynthia Brown discusses her journey in women's health and fertility, emphasizing the importance of understanding these topics beyond conventional medicine. The conversation explores the Maha movement and its impact on women's health, cultural perspectives on pregnancy and motherhood, and the dangers of extreme birthing practices. The discussion also touches on the romanticization of pain in motherhood, the need for community support in parenting, and the intersection of gender and medical care. Dr. Brown highlights the boy crisis and the influence of cult mentality on...
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Content Warnings: Sexual assault and child sexual abuse Sex trafficking and the Epstein list Cult dynamics, coercive control, and brainwashing White supremacy, racism, xenophobia, and fascism Historical violence, genocide, Nazism, U.S. colonial atrocities, police violence Political extremism, MAGA, Trump administration actions Death, including anticipated death of a political figure Domestic extremism, ICE raids, and militarized responses Cult-related childhood trauma and labor camp environments In this episode Daniella (“Knitting Cult Lady”) and historian Amanda...
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Content Warning: This episode contains discussions of religious and institutional abuse, child abuse, disordered eating, family estrangement, mental illness, trauma recovery, and medication withdrawal. Listener discretion is advised. In this episode of Cults and the Culting of America, hosts Dr. Scot Loyd and Daniella Mestyanek Young speak with Beth Granger, author of Born and RAZED: Surviving the Cult Was Only Half the Battle. Beth shares her experience growing up at Grenville Christian College, a Canadian boarding school later revealed to be a religious cult connected to the Community of...
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Cults & The Culting of America w/ Knitting Cult Lady | 56 | Brazilian Dictatorship and Resilience
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In this special episode, Daniella Mestyanek Young (“Knitting Cult Lady”) speaks with Dr. Bryan Pitts, Assistant Director of UCLA’s Latin American Institute, about the Brazilian military dictatorship (1964–1985) and how studying Brazil’s political history can help Americans understand current threats to democracy. They compare U.S. and Brazilian political systems, the cultural myths that obscure inequality (the “American Dream” vs. Brazil’s “racial democracy”), and the interplay between religion, class, and authoritarianism. The discussion explores how political elites,...
info_outlineIn this conversation, Daniella and Kasi explore the cult-like aspects of Starbucks, discussing Kasi's personal journey from barista to store manager and the emotional and psychological dynamics at play within the corporate structure. They delve into themes of recruitment, vulnerability, the illusion of family, leadership programs, and the impact of corporate culture on mental health. The discussion highlights the emotional manipulation and control exerted by organizations, drawing parallels to cult behavior and the sacrifices individuals make for their jobs.
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Takeaways
- Starbucks had a significant impact on Kasi's formative years.
- Young adults are particularly vulnerable to corporate recruitment tactics.
- The fun environment at Starbucks was a major draw for Kasi.
- The concept of 'family' in corporations can be misleading.
- Leadership programs often serve the organization's needs more than the individual's.
- Emotional manipulation is prevalent in corporate events and culture.
- Mental health struggles can arise from high-demand work environments.
- Self-sabotage can occur when trying to maintain a positive image in a toxic environment.
- The deification of leaders can create a cult-like atmosphere in companies.
- Mourning the loss of belief in a caring organization is a common experience.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Starbucks Cultiness
02:31 Kasi's Journey with Starbucks
05:41 Recruitment and Vulnerability in Young Adults
10:56 The Illusion of Family and Loyalty
13:59 Leadership Programs and Organizational Control
19:46 The Echo Chamber of Corporate Culture
25:37 Influence of Recommended Reading and Ideology
27:54 The Cult of Education and Gratitude
29:46 Emotional Manipulation in High-Demand Organizations
32:20 Trauma and Recovery in Cult-like Environments
36:27 The Illusion of Trust and Loyalty
41:36 The Role of Emotional Evocation in Corporate Culture
45:26 The Cost of Self-Sacrifice in the Workplace
50:05 The Breaking Point: Mental Health and Organizational Pressure
55:35 Mourning the Loss of Belief in Organizations
Produced by Haley Phillips