Episode 40: Courage, Connection, and Living Fully on Adventure with Wells Jones
On Adventure Podcast with Josh Self
Release Date: 01/14/2025
On Adventure Podcast with Josh Self
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What does it mean to live a life of adventure, and how do the challenges we face shape our purpose? In this episode, we sit down with Wells Jones, author of the gripping novel A Line in the Sand and a man whose life has been anything but ordinary. Wells shares his journey from his days as a Navy Air Rescue team member to his experiences as a producer, actor, and adventurer.
Our conversation touches on his transformative treks through the Middle East, retracing the steps of T.E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia), and how those experiences inspired his new novel. Wells also opens up about the lessons learned from turning back in precarious situations, the importance of having a purpose in every endeavor, and how human connection can transcend cultural divides. Tune in for a captivating discussion that will leave you reflecting on your own definition of adventure.
Episode Highlights
[2:15] - Wells reflects on his upbringing, family dynamics, and the early loss of his father that shaped his adventurous spirit.
[6:50] - Navy Air Rescue: From parachuting to mountain rescues in Antarctica, Wells recalls life-changing experiences and how they prepared him for life's challenges.
[12:30] - The philosophy of adventure: What George Mallory and Winston Churchill taught Wells about conquering oneself.
[20:15] - Facing danger: Wells shares harrowing stories, including a near-death moment during a precision skydive practice.
[38:00] - Trekking the Middle East: Retracing T.E. Lawrence’s journey during the Arab Revolt and the human connections that inspired A Line in the Sand.
[50:30] - The heart of the book: How historical fiction blends real-life events with storytelling to shed light on the complexities of the modern Middle East.
[1:00:15] - Wells’ hopes for readers of his book: The lessons of history and the importance of seeing humanity in everyone.
Links & Resources
- Wells Jones IMDB Page: Wells Jones on IMDB
- A Line in the Sand (Book): Buy on Amazon
- Learn more about the Seeds of Peace organization: Seeds of Peace
- Miles Spencer website
Closing Thoughts
Thank you for joining me on this deep dive into Wells Jones’ incredible life story. If you found inspiration in this episode, please rate, review, and share the podcast with your fellow adventurers. Don’t forget to hit the follow button so you never miss an episode. Until next time, keep exploring, keep learning, and as always, live your great adventure.