Episode 45: What's worthy of your finitude with Patrick Moody
On Adventure Podcast with Josh Self
Release Date: 03/21/2025
On Adventure Podcast with Josh Self
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info_outlineI love these conversations, but this one was fun. We hit on the depths of the human condition to drive each of us on to our own adventures. So what happens when a dedicated trial attorney makes adventure a non-negotiable part of his life? In this episode, I sit down with Patrick Moody, a prosecutor for the state of Montana who refuses to let a demanding career keep him from chasing adventure. From trail running right out his back door to tackling high-altitude mountaineering, Patrick has found a way to integrate the wilderness into his daily routine.
We dive into his experiences traveling across five continents in a single year, climbing some of the world's most stunning peaks, and even navigating a life-altering arthritis diagnosis that nearly took away his ability to walk. Patrick shares how he mentally and physically pushes through challenges, what drives him to keep pursuing difficult things, and why he believes that truly living means stepping into the unknown. This conversation is packed with insights on adventure, resilience, and making the most of the time we have.
Episode Highlights:
[1:30] – Patrick’s background as a Montana-based attorney and adventure-seeker
[3:15] – Why Helena, Montana is a paradise for outdoor lovers
[6:45] – The shocking arthritis diagnosis that nearly ended Patrick’s ability to move
[10:20] – How he rebuilt his body and got into trail running post-diagnosis
[15:45] – The lessons of adventure: losing a parent young and growing up without wealth
[22:10] – Learning to listen to his instincts on when to push forward and when to turn back
[31:05] – The scariest moment of his mountaineering career—trapped in a lightning storm
[35:55] – A year of adventure: how Patrick traveled to five continents in 2024
[44:30] – The importance of intentionality in adventure, career, and finances
[50:10] – Type 1, Type 2, and Type 3 fun—why suffering is part of the reward
Links & Resources:
- Books mentioned in the conversation:
- The Impossible First by Colin O’Brady (about the first solo trek across Antarctica)
- Camping with Kierkegaard (exploring philosophy and adventure)
- Connect with past guests mentioned in the episode:
- Tim Matthews (Ep. 18)
- Robbie Lenfestey (Ep. 21)
- Kenton Cool (Ep. 22)
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