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Episode 47: Suffering together with Patrick Serfass

On Adventure Podcast with Josh Self

Release Date: 04/18/2025

Episode 65: Why Suffering Becomes a Spiritual Awakening with Scott Sauls show art Episode 65: Why Suffering Becomes a Spiritual Awakening with Scott Sauls

On Adventure Podcast with Josh Self

David Brooks describes life as a journey up two mountains. The first mountain is about achievement—building a career, proving yourself, chasing success. The second mountain begins when the first no longer satisfies, and you’re called into a deeper life of meaning, surrender, and service. This episode lives squarely on that second mountain. This conversation is the second installment in our series exploring where spirituality and adventure overlap, and it’s an honest look at what happens when ambition gives way to awakening. I sat down with Scott Sauls to talk about burnout, identity, and...

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Episode 63: Walking Into a New Life - How a 100+ Pound Transformation Led to Ultra Endurance Success with Lisa Decker show art Episode 63: Walking Into a New Life - How a 100+ Pound Transformation Led to Ultra Endurance Success with Lisa Decker

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Episode 62: From Ultras to FKT's to Ocean Crossings: You Won’t Believe What Mike Wardian’s Doing Next! show art Episode 62: From Ultras to FKT's to Ocean Crossings: You Won’t Believe What Mike Wardian’s Doing Next!

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What happens when you stop waiting for permission and start chasing wild, audacious goals? That’s exactly what we unpack in this powerhouse episode with Mike Wardian—elite endurance athlete, record-setting runner, and all-around inspiration. From running across the United States to setting a fastest known time (FKT) on the Appalachian Trail for his age group, Mike shares the mindset behind tackling the unimaginable. But this conversation goes beyond races and records. Mike opens up about what fuels his drive, how he builds resilience through repetition, and how he balances his career,...

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Episode 61: Why Adventurers Quit - 3 Mental Traps and How to Beat Them with Vol State 500K Finisher MAJ (Ret.) Vincent Antunez show art Episode 61: Why Adventurers Quit - 3 Mental Traps and How to Beat Them with Vol State 500K Finisher MAJ (Ret.) Vincent Antunez

On Adventure Podcast with Josh Self

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Episode 60: Inside the Mind of Speed Records, Failure, and Firearms with Tom Kubiniec show art Episode 60: Inside the Mind of Speed Records, Failure, and Firearms with Tom Kubiniec

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Some stories grab you right from the first sentence—and this one, with Patrick Serfass, took me on a ride I didn’t want to end.

Patrick isn’t just a triathlete, or a renewable energy leader, or a dad raising two adventurous boys. He’s a guy who once said yes to sailing a 26-foot boat with no refrigeration all the way to South America. A guy who climbed the Grand Teton without any prior climbing experience. But what really makes his story stick with you is what happened when all of that—his athletic identity, his mobility, his very sense of self—got upended in a moment.

In this episode, we talk about what it means to suffer well, how ego can drive growth, and why the most powerful moments in life often come through challenge. We talk about trust, adventure, the loneliness of injury, and the healing that comes when you’re surrounded by people who say, “I’ve got you.” If you’ve ever been forced to let go of something you thought defined you—this one’s for you.


⏱️ Timestamps

[1:12] – Patrick introduces his family and his lifelong pull toward movement and travel
[5:55] – A spontaneous dinner conversation leads to a year-long sailing adventure
[12:01] – Why shared suffering forges deeper connection than comfort ever could
[17:40] – Losing the ability to run, and finding new purpose beyond the podium
[30:17] – What happens when your body becomes the limiting factor—and you say yes anyway
[35:12] – Climbing Grand Teton without climbing experience: fear, faith, and the magic of the mountains
[47:40] – The unexpected rewards of pushing through what scares us
[56:00] – What it really means to “stay in shape for the next adventure”—and why it’s not just physical


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If you’ve ever had to redefine who you are, if you’ve ever stood at the edge of something scary and whispered “yes,” I hope this episode reminds you: you’re not alone.

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