SFIO 205 - Backward Goals, Brewery Goals, and Bathroom Adventures
Release Date: 05/27/2025
SFIO 312 - Side Quests and Story Arcs - Season 3 Review
Still Figuring It Out
📋 Episode Summary In this warm and reflective season finale, Marc and Emily close out Season 3 by looking back at the conversations, surprises, and throughlines that emerged. From getting their first live Christmas tree in two decades to reflecting on the grief and growth that shaped their year, they offer a candid behind-the-scenes look at how the season unfolded. They talk about the intention behind creating a story arc, the joy of unexpected episodes, and how Concord Leadership Group is more than just a name—it’s a shared vision of harmony and wholehearted leadership. Plus, they...
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SFIO 311 - Rest, Recovery, and the Quiet Work of Healing
Still Figuring It Out
📋 Episode Summary In this thoughtful conversation, Marc and Emily reflect on the deeper dimensions of rest—not just as sleep or downtime, but as intentional recovery, play, and emotional repair. They share how this past year of travel, loss, and transition reshaped their understanding of what it means to truly rest. From the importance of daily routines to the power of letting go of urgency, they invite listeners to reconsider their own rhythms and how grief, joy, and presence all play into real restoration. With humor and candor, they explore how play can be a portal to healing, how...
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SFIO 310 - 90-Day Goal Planning - Celebrating Wins Without Falling Off a Cliff
Still Figuring It Out
📋 Episode Summary In this spontaneous episode, Emily surprises Marc with a question about 90-day goal planning. What unfolds is a layered conversation about timelines, personal wiring, vision vs. focus, and the often overlooked practice of celebrating accomplishments. Together, they explore how goal setting and pacing intersect with neurodivergence, business rhythms, and the real-life complexity of working toward big things while juggling many. They challenge productivity myths, question quarter-based planning, and offer a more compassionate, flexible model for building momentum—one...
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SFIO 309 - Holidays, Pausing, and Flexing with the Seasons
Still Figuring It Out
📋 Episode Summary In this episode of Still Figuring It Out, Marc and Emily Pitman reflect on how the holidays have shifted over the years—from childhood traditions to parenting young adults, and from being nonprofit staff with year-end intensity to running a coaching practice with more margin. They discuss how working from home affects their ability to truly pause, how their values show up in how they decorate and celebrate, and how they now approach holidays with more intentionality, spaciousness, and flexibility. It’s a conversation about embracing change, honoring rest, and...
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SFIO 308 - When to Get Help (and When Not To)
Still Figuring It Out
📋 Episode Summary Marc and Emily explore the nuanced and personal decision of when (and whether) to get help—whether that’s in business, around the house, or in life. From their early years of hiring vacuuming help as new parents to their experiments with cleaning services, virtual assistants, and administrative support, they reflect on how each decision is shaped by values, seasons of life, and evolving clarity. They share candid lessons learned about identity, strengths, outsourcing too soon, and the surprising ways “help” can either support or strip away joy. 🔑 Key Takeaways ...
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SFIO 307 - Align and Accelerate: Fundraising with Heart with Chris Baiocchi
Still Figuring It Out
📋 Episode Summary In this episode, Emily and Marc sit down with fundraising consultant and bow tie enthusiast Chris Baiocchi to explore how a career rooted in journalism led to a calling in philanthropy. Chris shares candidly about the leap from nonprofit staff to self-employed consultant, and what it’s taken to redefine success, stability, and service in his work. They unpack the nuances of donor relationships, alignment, and the importance of momentum—and toss in a few great sci-fi references for good measure. 🔑 Key Takeaways Fundraising is about alignment—doing the right...
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SFIO306 - Goal-setting: Pressure, Play, and Permission
Still Figuring It Out
📋 Episode SummaryMarc and Emily take on their favorite recurring theme: goal setting. But this time, they dive deeper into their wildly different upbringings, internal narratives, and current practices around goals—from poker chips and chore lists to Scrum boards and morning routines. They explore why goals can feel like punishment for some and purpose for others, and how they’ve each shifted their relationship to goals in ways that feel more personal, flexible, and free. This episode offers an honest, layered conversation that blends coaching insight with lived...
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SFIO 305 - Relationship-Based Sales that Don’t Suck with Andrea Ferry Daniels
Still Figuring It Out
📋 Episode SummaryAndrea Ferry Daniels joins Emily and Marc for a candid conversation about sales, coaching, and showing up with purpose. As CEO of Rookie to Rainmaker, Andrea shares how she built a six-figure business from a South Jersey apartment, turned her gift for connection into a scalable model, and now helps others build confidence and close deals—with authenticity and heart. They talk about what it means to speak with impact, the power of letting go of familiar goals, and how to keep showing up even while you're still figuring it out. 🔑 Key Takeaways Sales doesn’t...
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SFIO 304 - Working Together and Playing to Your Biggest Self
Still Figuring It Out
📋 Episode Summary In this vulnerable and insightful episode, Marc and Emily open up about the evolution of their working relationship—and how their personal growth has shaped their professional path. They reflect on what it’s meant to co-create a life and a business, especially as Emily stepped more visibly into roles of leadership, coaching, and authorship. From sacred cows and shared systems to spontaneous pivots and solo retreats, this episode explores what it really takes to work together as equals—when the brand once felt like an extension of just one person, and when your growth...
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SFIO 303 - Doing Life Side by Side
Still Figuring It Out
📋 Episode Summary Marc and Emily get candid about what it’s been like to build a life, family, and work in close proximity for more than 30 years. This episode dives into what it means to “work together now,” unpacking the realities of sharing space, parenting, making intentional choices—and growing up alongside each other. From early dreams of connection and community to unromantic but essential rituals (like coffee at 6 a.m. and cereal in low cupboards), they reflect on what’s helped them stick together through different seasons, even when things got messy. Not as advice—just...
info_outlineIn this episode, Marc and Emily explore their very different relationships with goal setting. What starts as a reflection on abandoned international travel dreams quickly turns into a candid conversation about how goals can serve—or burden—us.
Marc shares his long history of goal-setting (and the ways it still trips him up), including his yearly list of 100 “magnet goals” and the mental gymnastics involved in sticking to goals like “visit one brewery a month.” Emily reflects on how her earliest experience with goal setting was punitive and tied to shame—shaping a lifelong tension with traditional goal frameworks.
They talk about neurodivergence, executive function, the false sense of completion that sometimes comes just from planning a goal, and the difference between forward-focused and backward-looking intentions. Along the way, they share practical reframes and offer each other new language for celebrating progress.
If you’ve ever struggled with how to make goal setting feel more human—or you’ve wondered whether there’s another way to approach productivity—this episode offers a thoughtful, honest, and often funny look at the topic.
Key Takeaways
- Not everyone has the same relationship with goals—some find them motivating, others experience them as shame-triggering.
- “Magnet Goals” can be a creative, idea-based alternative to rigid planning.
- Sharing goals publicly can create a false sense of completion.
- Neurodivergent brains often use emotional weight to create momentum, which can be both helpful and exhausting.
- Setting goals in retrospect (looking at what you did rather than what you planned) may be a more useful approach for some.
Quote Highlights
“I’m still figuring out how to set goals without shame being part of the process.” – Marc
“Maybe I’ll just do goal setting backwards—looking for the goals I didn’t know I set.” – Emily
“Goal setting feels like a dialect to you. For me, it still feels like a foreign language.” – Emily
“There’s a kind of figuring it out that feels like play—and a kind that feels like punishment.” – Emily
“I’ve been goal-setting since I was 14. And I’m still surprised how much pressure I put on myself.” – Marc
Resources & Mentions
- Magnet Goals Framework
- Enneagram Type 7 (referenced in Marc’s reflections on anticipation and follow-through)
- Zoho Campaigns & SpeakerFlow (tools Marc mentions wrangling)
- Shad Helmstetter, Zig Ziglar, Brian Tracy (classic goal-setting cassette tape influences)