Ep 46 - Should Your Church Hire Non-Christians? (ft. I Can Only Imagine 2 Director)
Release Date: 03/11/2026
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Ep 46 - Should Your Church Hire Non-Christians? (ft. I Can Only Imagine 2 Director)
The Monochrome
Andy Erwin, director of I Can Only Imagine 2, joins the podcast for a behind-the-scenes conversation about what it takes to make a sequel better than the original — including filming at Red Rocks with only 6 hours and 8,500 fans. But the conversation goes deeper than filmmaking: Andy shares why he intentionally casts non-Christians in his films and how both the product and the process can be vehicles for the gospel. If you lead a creative or technical ministry team, this episode will challenge how you think about who belongs on it. Show Notes 💡 More SALT JOIN THE COMMUNITY...
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The Monochrome
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The Monochrome
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The Monochrome
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The Monochrome
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info_outlineAndy Erwin, director of I Can Only Imagine 2, joins the podcast for a behind-the-scenes conversation about what it takes to make a sequel better than the original — including filming at Red Rocks with only 6 hours and 8,500 fans. But the conversation goes deeper than filmmaking: Andy shares why he intentionally casts non-Christians in his films and how both the product and the process can be vehicles for the gospel. If you lead a creative or technical ministry team, this episode will challenge how you think about who belongs on it.
Show Notes
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