Customer Obsessed: What Really Sets Winners Apart with Marbue Brown
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Release Date: 01/25/2026
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info_outlineMarbue Brown defines customer obsession versus customer focus. He explains you start with the customer and work backwards. He contrasts companies that work backwards from product or profits. He draws on Amazon practices where the question, "what is the competition doing?" rarely comes up. He outlines five levels on the customer obsession continuum: customer indifferent, aware, focused, centric, and obsessed.
He gives cultural examples like hashtag thank you Thursday used by leaders to recognize employees and reinforce customer priorities across the organization.
Marbue explains tools to measure and act on customer obsession. He describes the customer obsession barometer built with Dr. John Hughes. It scores nine practices from his book Blueprint for Customer Obsession. The barometer separates top tier companies and identifies "obsessed customers" who recommend and repurchase. He gives Chase as a success story. Chase links employee obsession with customer results through listening, rapid actioning of feedback, branch visits, and recognition.
About Marbue Brown
Marbue Brown is founder of The Customer Obsession Advantage, a firm dedicated to helping companies achieve transcendent business results through Customer Obsession. He is an accomplished customer experience (CX) executive with a track record of thought leadership and signature business results at some of the most iconic companies on the planet, including JP Morgan Chase, Amazon.com, Microsoft Corporation, and Cisco Systems. As a CX leader, he guided the Chase Consumer Bank to record performance in the JD Power Retail Banking Study, NPS and branch satisfaction. He transformed the Andon Cord mechanism at Amazon.com from a primarily manually triggered to system to a primarily automated system triggered by machine learning and statistical models. The Andon Cord is one of Amazon.com’s most significant mechanisms it uses to personify its Customer Obsession culture. Marbue devised and codified the NSAT Improvement Approach at Microsoft, which was widely used by business units to dramatically improve CX as well as international subsidiaries who won nationwide awards in the process. He co-authored seminal articles about customer experience measurements that are widely cited in industry. He is a sought after speaker and published author on customer experience, business strategy and economic policy.
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:35 - Career Highlights and Key Achievements
4:13 - Winning in Customer-Centric Roles
9:13 - Understanding Customer Obsession
11:42 - Customer Obsession Continuum Explained
16:45 - Measuring Customer Obsession with Barometer
22:11 - Success Story: Chase's Customer and Employee Focus
32:53 - Key Takeaways on Customer Policies
35:12 - Conclusion and Farewell
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Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation.
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