How Does Tomorrow Sound?
To video or not to video? Coupling your audio with a visual element can provide a more immersive experience for viewers, letting them experience facial expressions, gestures, and visual cues that can deepen understanding and connection. Video also boosts discoverability, because it makes TikTok sharing possible. However, audio by itself fosters a unique intimacy. When listeners focus on the content without distractions, they can use their imaginations and multitask, giving podcasts a strategic advantage of visual media when it comes to fitting into busy lifestyles. And what will happen when we...
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In our largest production call yet, seven audio makers share takeaways on our Episode 3 findings: 1) How audio memes work in the brain (and what we can steal from them), and 2) spatial audio as a stepping stone toward interactive storytelling. We talk about audio memes (ie. pieces of sound listeners already know the contextual meaning of) that already exist inside of podcasts (e.g. the chime for the news, the creaky door in a horror story, the way the conventions of This American Life have trickled through the ecosystem as best practices). And we brainstorm what else we can borrow or steal...
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This podcast explores the future of digital audio and asks what podcasts might become in ten years. Do podcasts stand a chance against Tik Tok supremacy? Viral audio borrows cool from pop music and pop culture. Charlotte Shane calls this “brainfeel” in her recent Times Magazine article. Our brains are happiest when something we already like is the vector for new learning. Similarly, pop music borrows cool from licensing old hits, according to Switched on Pop co-host Charlie Harding, after recent precedent ended from the kind of liberal sampling that enabled hip hop and rock to flourish. So...
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We imagined a second audio future! Then we asked some smart podcasters how we did. In this bonus track, we air back-to-back conversations with podcast experts. In the first, we spoke with Demetrius Bagley, Nikki Thomas, and Jonas Litton. In our second conversation, we spoke with Jackie Huntington and Diana Opong. These experts share their reactions to E02 (“Like… It’s Alive!”). We are grateful for their feedback. In E02, we suggested that podcast audiences will mature in similar ways that audiences for film and television have, including wanting more interactivity and more immersive...
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What will podcasts become in 10 years? Join us as we explore the future of digital audio. How will listenership mature in the future? Will we outgrow our evolutionary need for story? Child psychiatrist, author, and horror enthusiast Dr. Steven Schlozman, Dr. Martin Spinelli, Dr. Sorcha Ni Fhlainn, Dr. Sylvia Chan Olmsted, and Podfly’s own Corey Coates offer insights. Story audiences mature and trends shift. Plus, with more diverse groups of light podcast listeners tuning in, there’s more opportunity to reach new niches. But what kinds of stories will these new audiences want today and 10...
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We imagined one audio future! Then we asked some smart podcasters how we did. In E01 (“Like Your New Best Friend”), we suggest that developments in AI might turn podcasts into very compelling chatbots. In this bonus track, podcasters Stacey Copeland, Clif Mark, Naomi Mellor, and Andrea Muraskin share their reactions. We are grateful for their feedback. Note: Though the track is presented like one large convo, we spliced two longer chats (one with Stacey and Andrea and one with Clif), held at separate times, with a voicemail from Naomi. We didn’t include here the editorial suggestions we...
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Let’s imagine some audio futures! This podcast explores the future of digital audio and asks what podcasts might become in ten years. Podcasts flourished out of the tech of the early 2000s. Now, artificial intelligence is poised to change everything. We speak with Natural Language Processing (NLP) researcher Philippe Laban; science writer Matthew Hutson; professor, programmer, and composer David Cope; and creator of Late Night with Robot, Ana-Marija Stojic. Every day, NLP and speech synthesis more closely imitate human language: Now, imagine AI-generated pods offering a key feature no live...
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How Does Tomorrow Sound is a six episode series on the future of podcasts. Hosts Kate, Josh, and Neleigh endeavor to predict what podcasts might look like — or evolve into — in 10 years’ time. Expert interviews are braided with funny, experimental, blue sky brainstorming sessions and audio experiments by the hosts. This show will challenge your assumptions, will make you wonder, and will spark new ideas about the road from here to the future of audio narrative.
info_outlineTo video or not to video? Coupling your audio with a visual element can provide a more immersive experience for viewers, letting them experience facial expressions, gestures, and visual cues that can deepen understanding and connection. Video also boosts discoverability, because it makes TikTok sharing possible. However, audio by itself fosters a unique intimacy. When listeners focus on the content without distractions, they can use their imaginations and multitask, giving podcasts a strategic advantage of visual media when it comes to fitting into busy lifestyles. And what will happen when we get other senses involved, like haptics?
In the height of the pandemic, Lara Ehrlich, author of the story collection Animal Wife created her conversation series Writer, Mother, Monster as a live, online Youtube and podcast conversation series about why she chose Youtube first, and how she multipurposes content into audio only podcasts to reach audiences where they are.
Neleigh Olson gives us a quick ethnography of Joe Rogan’s podcasts on Youtube.
We speak with Siciliana Trevino, filmmaker and creator of the world’s first augmented reality podcast for Bose bone conducting headphones, which uses haptics. Siciliana takes an audio-first approach to filmmaking, and is passionate about new media. She envisions a dynamic, and even more intensely personalized audio future.
This episode contains a new “labs” segment, an experiment where Neleigh and Josh perform a visual rhetorical analysis of Queen’s 1985 Live Aid concert, from which we learn that video requires additional visual communication skills. Exactly what are your background, hairdo, and earrings communicating?
This episode contains voices from a number of smart people, including Diana Opong, Jackie Huntington, and Stacey Copeland, who participated in our production calls, as well as Matja Ilias, Sam Pigott, and Ivan Capalija, podcast fans we spoke with in a bar in Williamsburgh, Brooklyn.
The Big Takeaways
- Lara Ehrlich
- Lara is the author of the story collection Animal Wife, and the host of Writer Mother Monster, a conversation series devoted to dismantling the myth of “having it all” and offering writer-moms solidarity, support, and advice. She is also the founder and director of Thought Fox Writers Den, which builds community and supports writers of all levels with in-person and virtual classes, workshops, coaching, and more.
- ”Personally, I like expressions. I think really close watchers of Writer, Mother Monster will see that embarrassingly I tear up a lot, because these conversations can be very challenging”
- ”I love the moment, and I see it too, that moment where someone's not quite sure if they can say what they're going to say. And, and I try to remind them that this is a safe space and you know, everyone listening is out there because they feel the same way.”
- Lara is the author of the story collection Animal Wife, and the host of Writer Mother Monster, a conversation series devoted to dismantling the myth of “having it all” and offering writer-moms solidarity, support, and advice. She is also the founder and director of Thought Fox Writers Den, which builds community and supports writers of all levels with in-person and virtual classes, workshops, coaching, and more.
- Siciliana Trevino
- Filmmaker Siciliana Trevino is a recognized leader in immersive tech. She brings over a decade of experience collaborating with global brands, startups, entrepreneurs, and community organizations to drive high impact results using the latest innovations in tech including AI, Web3, virtual and augmented reality. She is the creator of the world’s first augmented reality podcast “HG Wells War of the World’s Invasion.” She is also the creator and cohost of the Zero to Start podcast, about VR development for beginners.
- “And I thought, okay, we're gonna do War of the Worlds in and build this world in radio, and the Martians are now here for our memes. So all of the components of the game would rely on audio memes from, you know, the golden age of YouTube.
- [On the rise of AI] ”So I think you could see yourself in a few years, you know, being in the holodeck in VR or on your couch, and you sit back and you say, you know, I want to listen to a podcast in a natural setting that's gonna make me feel positive. Or I wanna listen to a horror, um, podcast so you can tell, and I want it read by, you know, um, Stephen King.”
- [On the rise of AI] “It's unprecedented the amount of disruption that's going to occur around what we listen to.”
- Filmmaker Siciliana Trevino is a recognized leader in immersive tech. She brings over a decade of experience collaborating with global brands, startups, entrepreneurs, and community organizations to drive high impact results using the latest innovations in tech including AI, Web3, virtual and augmented reality. She is the creator of the world’s first augmented reality podcast “HG Wells War of the World’s Invasion.” She is also the creator and cohost of the Zero to Start podcast, about VR development for beginners.
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