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2.37. The Nemesis Episode

Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

Release Date: 11/20/2024

3.14. The Library Episode show art 3.14. The Library Episode

Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

Pulling up to this episode is like pulling up to your local library... it's got a little bit of everything in it, except for hopefully those pesky midwestern ticks. The episode opens with the usual intro banter, where Des characterizes Kara as being in "librarian mode." If Kara is the librarian, then that makes Des the person who is relentlessly trying to make you laugh in there. Thus, we are off to a good start riffing about summers in the midwest, travel, and camps.  Kara talks about winning an Emmy(!) and about Colt graduating from 8th grade and being on the precipice of both driving...

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Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

They warmed you up with plenty of pre-race content, Des and Kara and the athletes delivered on exciting races, and now it's time for the cooldown! Des and Kara recap the Save the 10,000 with all of their reactions and lessons learned. They give you even more build-the-scenes details of the event and discuss whether or not there will be a year 2 for the event.  But first, there is plenty of intro banter on Des's post-Boston recovery and Kara's Mother's Day with the family. They also give you some teasers on Des's fall racing schedule. Is it a 50-miler or 1-mile race in the plans?!? Kara...

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Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

To get you excited about Saturday night's Save the 10,000 with Des and Kara, this episode is all about Kara's history with the event. She talks about 10,000m legends Lynn Jennings and Billy Mills and how they inspired her to want to be an Olympian. She gives the story of how she WALKED in her very first 10,000 on the track, seemingly swearing off the event for good. She details coming back to the distance at later time and surprising herself in her 2nd attempt at the distance. Then of course, she shares the play-by-play on her historic medal in the 10,000 at Osaka in 2007 that would change her...

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Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

It's race week. Are you ready for this?!? Cue the 2 Unlimited music in your head! In this episode, Trevor Rhodes joins the show. He is the race director for the meet, and the event wouldn't have happened with him. Des, Kara, and Trevor take you behind the scenes on putting together the Save the 10,000 with Des and Kara. They talk about the budget, key decisions, prize money, the elite fields, and give you some exciting race-week announcements. They also give special thanks to you for showing up in a big way for the virtual race and with your donations. Plus, they shout-out all of the sponsors...

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Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

"People say you should go out on top, and that's what I am doing - because getting to race my final professional marathon in Boston is indeed going out on top." - Des Linden Those are the words she shared via an ad in the Boston Globe placed and paid for by her and released on race morning. Then, she did indeed go out on top... running 2:26 (as she predicted) and finishing as the first masters finisher against a stacked 40+ field. In this episode, Des gives us the breakdown of her final professional marathon in Boston including the reasons for the decision, the emotions of the weekend, how the...

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Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

Live from WBUR Cityspace, this is the 2025 version of Des and Kara from Boston. In this episode, you get all of the normal, fun banter plus a section-by-section rundown of the Boston course from their experiences. If you are racing on Monday, then this is a must-listen before you toe the line for plenty of inspiration and some great course intel. For everyone else, there is plenty of humor and fun anecdotes to go around. Thank you to WBUR for hosting and to Brooks Running for their title sponsorship of the podcast!  

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3.8. The New Leaf Episode show art 3.8. The New Leaf Episode

Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

Spring time is here. The leaves are returning to the trees, and we are turning over new ones.  Some new leaves in this episode: new Brooks foams and new track meets, plus massages (!), excursions (!), and a lot of breaking news for Save the 10,000.  This episode starts with an update on Des's build to Boston and her plans for the upcoming taper. She details one of her final big workouts and talks about how she listens to her body (vs. a rigid plan) during these final weeks. She also bought not one, not two, but THREE massages which is three more than she usually does in a Boston...

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Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

This episode is a vibe all to its own, and you know it's is a good one when hilarious stuff comes up in the most random of ways. This episode isn’t about chafing, but you get plenty of hilarious (and perhaps a little disgusting) banter on it. Elite or not… every runner can relate to that.  What else do we have in this one? Let’s see…lost toenails, disgusting feet, how-to’s on post-chafing showers, socks or no socks(?), the 90’s style comeback, OnlyFans, beef with the social media trolls, Disney PTSD, pillow preferences, and we haven’t even gotten to the main topics, yet. On...

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Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

Nobody asked Des and Kara to put on a 10,000 meter track race, but as is the theme for this podcast, here we are! It's officially official. The Save the 10,000 with Des and Kara is happening on Saturday, May 3rd at Mt. San Antonio College (aka Mt. SAC) in Walnut, CA. Listen to this episode for all of the details, and then head to to sign up for the virtual race, get tickets, and check out other ways to support. Des and Kara are putting up their own money to make this thing happen with sponsors gradually coming on board, but obviously we welcome as much help as possible from this amazing...

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3.5. The Introspection Episode show art 3.5. The Introspection Episode

Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

It was Adam Goucher's birthday last week. He turned 50. Happy birthday Adam(!) and thank you for prompting the introspection that is a theme throughout the episode.  It starts with the introspection of hitting age milestones as Kara and Des discuss how it felt hitting 30 and 40 and how they might feel hitting 50. Then, they talk about the introspection of retirement, including how it felt for Kara to retire from running and how she might think about retiring from this latest phase of her career. Des joins in with some hilarious conjecture about disappearing altogether once she is done...

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Oh my... where do we start with this episode goodness?!?

The highlight of this episode is the long-awaited podcast face-off between Des and her arch-nemesis Dakotah Popehn, nee Lindwurm. They trash talk with all of the intensity of two cats playing with a furry ball before licking each other clean. Combine that with Kara's Minnesota accent showing out in the presence of another Minnesotan, and you can imagine that this episode gets as heated as a cozy, warm blanket on a cold winter's day. Yes, it's amazing...

Dakotah gives us the inside scoop on her race and recovery from NYC, and she takes us back down memory lane to talk about qualifying for the Olympics, what it would have meant to her late mother, and what it was like racing in Paris. Plus, she stares down Des while talking about taking at shot at her 50K record. Kara + Des + Dakotah... what more could you want?! 

How about another half-episode complete with their hot takes on Matt Choi, the venues for Grand Slam Track, an Olipop Top 6, and the very first bleeped words ever on Nobody Asked Us? (Thank you Des for that). All of this adds up to an episode that you just can't miss. 

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In addition, here is the RW article that Des mentioned on Dakotah: https://www.runnersworld.com/races-places/a60401977/dakotah-lindwurm-emerges-with-unshakeable-self-belief/