A T-group comparison: The LIOS and DGGO (German Society for Group Dynamics) methods
Release Date: 01/23/2026
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My second interview of friend and colleague Monika Stuetzle-Hebel, who has hosted me twice to lead LIOS (Leadership Institute of Seattle) style T-groups in Germany. Listen in as we compare the two methodologies, from the history to the focus and process.
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I start my fourth year of podcasting with an exploration of leadership with Amos Balongo, an international speaker and leadership, life & communication coach. Website: Camp Ohana Foundation:
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A conversation with my 89 year old Uncle, Lew Frees, who in partnership with his wife, Ann Frees has created a unique OD approach, one rooted in love and connection.
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Listen in as Paul and I discuss our 26 year long collaboration as he led in many situations, consistantly using OD to foster healthy group and organizational dynamics, and to hone his own leadership. The session ranges from our beginning at Peach Bottom Atomic Power Station, to his series of roles including nuclear plant VP, head of an innovative team started from scratch, and COO of a major utility.
info_outlineMy second interview of friend and colleague Monika Stuetzle-Hebel, who has hosted me twice to lead LIOS (Leadership Institute of Seattle) style T-groups in Germany. Listen in as we compare the two methodologies, from the history to the focus and process.