The Laws of Connection David Robson | #10
The Harder to Breathe Podcast
On today’s episode of “Harder to Breathe'', host, founding drummer of “Maroon 5”, and as of now… officially licensed therapist, Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard for an eye-opening conversation with David Robson, a fantastic Science Journalist known for “The Laws of Connection”. Despite growing up with terrible social anxiety, David has become an incredible writer and speaker. His ideas will change the way that you think about the mind, and in this episode, the three men discuss several of the laws of connection he writes about in his...
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Twin Peaks, Riverdale, & Mental Health with Mädchen Amick | #9
The Harder to Breathe Podcast
On today’s episode of “Harder to Breathe'', host, founding drummer of “Maroon 5”, and licensed therapist, Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard for a conversation with iconic television star and mental health activist, Mädchen Amick. Mädchen was organized and well put together from a young age. She moved to Los Angeles at just 16 years old, and quickly found her footing in the world of acting and modeling. Her big break came with the premiere of David Lynch’s “Twin Peaks”, a TV Show that continues to make waves more than 30 years after its...
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One Size Does Not Fit All: Talking Addiction with Dr. Robb Kelly | #7
The Harder to Breathe Podcast
On today’s episode of “Harder to Breathe'', host and founding drummer of “Maroon 5” Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard for a riveting conversation with Dr. Robb Kelly: a psychologist, speaker, life coach, and author with some controversial opinions regarding addiction. In what is perhaps the most respectfully contentious episode of the podcast yet, Dr. Rob Kelly and Ryan have the chance to debate the definition of addiction– specifically in how it relates to alcoholism. Dr. Kelly’s stance is that alcoholism is not a lifelong condition, and...
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Therapist vs. Anti-Therapist | #6
The Harder to Breathe Podcast
On today’s episode of “Harder to Breathe'', host and founding drummer of “Maroon 5” Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard for a respectful debate with the “Anti-Therapist, Therapist” Diana Mandell. Diana’s personal experiences in life have led her into interaction after interaction with poor therapists. She feels that, as a general note, the majority of therapists out there are doing either “nothing” for their clients, or worse… having a negative impact on their clients’ lives in some way. After Diana’s own life hit...
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Revisiting ‘Songs About Jane’ w/ Record Producer Matt Wallace | #5
The Harder to Breathe Podcast
On today’s episode of “Harder to Breathe'', host and founding drummer of “Maroon 5” Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard for a very special in-person conversation with Matt Wallace: the Record Producer for “Songs About Jane”. Ryan and Matt crossed paths at exactly the right time in both of their lives. Maroon 5 was on the cusp of greatness, but they needed someone who could collaborate on a vision for the sound of their first record. Despite being a low paid position, Matt trusted his gut and took the job. Together, their collaboration...
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Treating Life as a Choice with Chris Panagiotu | #4
The Harder to Breathe Podcast
On today’s episode of “Harder to Breathe'', host and founding drummer of “Maroon 5” Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard for an in-person conversation with Ryan’s longtime friend, Podcast Host, Author, Speaker, and Financial Guide, Chris Panagiotu. Chris is an all-or-nothing guy, and he wears that designation proudly. He carries that passion and energy in every aspect of his life, whether in his relationships or in his business… and it’s absolutely contagious. There is much more to Chris than just his energy and enthusiasm, however....
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Putting Away the Concealer: feat. Celebrity Makeup Artist Jamie Greenberg | #3
The Harder to Breathe Podcast
On today’s episode of “Harder to Breathe'', host and founding drummer of “Maroon 5” Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard for a fascinating conversation with celebrity makeup artist, influencer, and CEO, Jamie Greenberg. Duck’s relationship with Jamie goes back to their days together at Ithaca College in a co-ed dorm space. In the years since, Jamie moved from job to job before finding her true passion in make-up by taking on a minimum wage job at Ulta. After moving to Los Angeles, opportunities arose for Jamie who has since climbed the...
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Holding Our Breath: Grief, Fun, and the LA Wildfires | #2
The Harder to Breathe Podcast
On today’s episode of “Harder to Breathe'', host and founding drummer of “Maroon 5” Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard to break down the impact, fear, and trauma surrounding the current LA Wildfires. Afterwards, the duo are joined by the host of the “Dopey” Podcast, David Manheim, for an incredible conversation surrounding Recovery, Fun, and so much more. Living in LA during the greatest wildfire the city has ever seen has led Duck and Ryan, and many other LA locals, to a great deal of emotion and uncertainty. The two share their concerns...
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A Recovering Narcissist: Ben Feldman | #1
The Harder to Breathe Podcast
On the season two premiere of “Harder to Breathe'', host and founding drummer of “Maroon 5” Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard for a conversation with Emmy Award Nominated Actor, Ben Feldman. Ben has played iconic roles in shows such as Mad Men and SuperStore. He found quick success out of College, immediately booking an understudy role on Broadway, as well as a role in a TV Pilot. From the jump, success came pretty easily for him, and these experiences launched both his career… and his ego… to new heights. In a fantastic and...
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Our First Season: Looking Back & Looking Ahead | #28
The Harder to Breathe Podcast
On the season one finale of “Harder to Breathe'', host and founding drummer of “Maroon 5” Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard for an honest conversation about the first season of the podcast, how things have gone so far, and how they hope things will go moving forward into season two. Putting together honest, truthful, and authentic interviews about mental health requires a certain level of vulnerability from the hosts themselves. Ryan and Duck take this opportunity at the end of the year to do just that: expressing their own emotions, struggles,...
info_outlineOn today’s episode of “Harder to Breathe'', host, founding drummer of “Maroon 5”, and as of now… officially licensed therapist, Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard for an eye-opening conversation with David Robson, a fantastic Science Journalist known for “The Laws of Connection”.
Despite growing up with terrible social anxiety, David has become an incredible writer and speaker. His ideas will change the way that you think about the mind, and in this episode, the three men discuss several of the laws of connection he writes about in his books, including “The Liking Gap”, the “Beautiful Mess Effect” and more.
As Duck points out, we are all the “Stars of our own Movies”, and as such we immediately tend to be harder on ourselves than we are on anyone else. We think that people don’t like us, and we’re quick to point out all of our own flaws. David’s science cracks open the ways that we are able to better connect with others, and moreover, why very intelligent people can be drawn to conspiracy theories, cults, and more.
It is one of the most fascinating episodes yet on the “Harder to Breathe” Podcast, and will quickly change the way that you look at the mind, social connection, and how the two are intrinsically linked with one another.
0:00:36 Introduction & Officially Licensed!
0:04:07 Seeking Validation
0:07:36 The Six-Year Journey
0:09:20 Finding the Positivity & Healthy Apologies
0:15:06 Navigating Fundamental Disagreements Within Society
0:19:51 Today’s Guest: David Robson
0:21:06 “Severance”: What Would You “Sever” from Your Life?
0:27:21 David Robson Joins the Podcast & Duck’s Anticipation
0:28:31 David’s Extensive Background
0:30:08 The “Science of Shyness” & The “Liking Gap”
0:38:51 The “Beautiful Mess” Effect
0:41:01 Seeking Human Connection
0:48:20 David’s Book: “The Laws of Connection”
0:55:21 Boundaries Within Family Relationships
1:02:56 “The Intelligence Trap”
1:07:21 Falling Prey to Motivated Reasoning
1:10:56 Mob Mentality
1:14:37 The Ultimate Catfish
1:16:31 “The Expectation Effect”
1:24:39 Absolving Yourself of Shame
1:31:31 Embracing Public Speaking from Shyness
1:389:18 Wrap Up & Conclusion
More on David Robson:
Official Website: https://davidrobson.me/
David’s Substack “60 Seconds of Psychology”: https://substack.com/@davidarobson
David’s Books: https://davidrobson.me/books/
X: https://x.com/d_a_robson?mx=2
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WWSG Speaker Page - https://wwsg.com/speakers/ryan-dusick/
Psychology Today Therapist Profile - https://www.psychologytoday.com/profile/937599
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