Your Mess is Your Magic with Marc Scheff | #17
Release Date: 04/29/2025
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info_outlineOn today’s episode of “Harder to Breathe'', host, founding drummer of “Maroon 5”, and licensed therapist, Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard for a conversation with Artist and Creativity Coach, Marc Sheff.
Marc is a renowned and award winning artist who has absolutely set the NYC art scene ablaze with his incredible work in resin. In addition to his art, he has recently opened himself up to creative coaching, acquiring multiple professional licenses on the path to giving creatives the permission they need to Create… Destroy… & Emerge as the person they desire to be.
Ryan, Duck, and Marc clearly speak the same creative language, and they have so much incredible insight into making sense of life’s chaos as an artistic person. They share a fantastic conversation about how creative people come to exist, embracing the “flow” state, choosing to take (and leave behind) certain aspects of our parents’ decision-making, and so much more.
Coaches come with many different approaches, but Marc’s stance that “Your Mess is Your Magic” is very on-brand for us here at the “Harder to Breathe” Podcast. His ability to be present in the moment, and to feel and embrace whatever he is currently experiencing is such a fantastic representation of a healthy approach to life, family, work, art, and so much more.
0:00:36 Introduction & Duck’s New Haircut
0:02:10 A Moment of Rejuvenation
0:03:46 Ryan’s Office Jobs Before Maroon 5
0:07:33 Duck’s Stationary Job & Shoplifting Shame
0:10:12 A Lesson on Honesty
0:14:48 Ryan’s Embarrassing Drawing
0:19:15 Today’s Guest: Marc Scheff
0:20:39 Marc Scheff Joins the Podcast & Talks His Coverband
0:22:12 Embracing The Present Moment
0:27:35 Toxic Positivity
0:28:58 Everything is a Trade-Off
0:33:39 Duck’s Chernobyl Metaphor
0:35:41 Challenges with Coaching Creatives
0:42:08 Where Creativity Meets Control
0:50:08 Positive Psychology & The “Flow” State
0:54:05 Marc’s Artistic Origin Story
0:59:34 Visiting Your Parent’s Workplace
1:05:16 Does a “Troubled Child” Become a Creative Adult?
1:10:21 Unconscious Incompetence to Mastery
1:13:45 Picasso at the Prado Museum
1:16:36 Self-Comparison & Growth
1:20:40 Wrap Up & Conclusion
More About Marc Scheff:
Personal Website: https://coach.marcscheff.com/
Coaching Website: https://www.marcscheff.com/
“Unleash Creativity” Club: https://www.unleashcreativity.club/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcscheff/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcscheff/
Ready to Dive Deeper?:
BenBella Books Author Page - https://benbellabooks.com/authors/dusick-ryan/
Amazon Book Page - https://www.amazon.com/Harder-Breathe-Memoir-Finding-Recovery/dp/1637742339/
WWSG Speaker Page - https://wwsg.com/speakers/ryan-dusick/
Psychology Today Therapist Profile - https://www.psychologytoday.com/profile/937599
Stay Up to Date on the Podcast: @hardertobreathepodcast
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X / Twitter - @DusickRyan
Follow Duck on Social Media:
IG - @Newyorkduck
X / Twitter - @DuckMaillard