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Podcast Show Summary: Guest Details: In this episode of Nellie Pod, hosts Daniel Gold and Braided Mac welcome Todd Itami, Director of Artificial Intelligence and Discovery Solutions at Covington Law Firm. Todd is a seasoned attorney and a recognized leader in AI and legal technology, specializing in integrating cutting-edge AI solutions into legal practice. Key Takeaways: The Inevitable AI Revolution in Law – AI is no longer just about efficiency; it’s about creating new value. The way lawyers interact with data, analyze cases, and deliver insights will change fundamentally. The Future of...
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Guest Details Tom Gricks, Managing Director of eDiscovery at OpenText, joins the podcast to discuss the evolution of Technology-Assisted Review (TAR), the legal industry's resistance to AI-driven workflows, and how Generative AI is reshaping document review. With a unique background in chemical engineering and law, Tom shares insights into the early battles over predictive coding, the transition from TAR 1.0 to TAR 2.0, and the future of AI-powered legal technology. Key Takeaways The Intersection of Engineering & Law – Tom Gricks shared his unconventional journey from chemical...
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Podcast Show Summary Guest Details Judge Andrew J. Peck, retired U.S. Magistrate Judge and Senior Counsel at DLA Piper, joins the podcast to discuss the evolution of eDiscovery, predictive coding, and the legal industry's slow adoption of technology. Key Takeaways The Slow Adoption of TAR & AI – Despite landmark rulings endorsing predictive coding (TAR), the legal industry remains resistant to change, relying heavily on keyword searches instead of embracing newer, more efficient technologies. Judicial Understanding & eDiscovery Challenges – Many judges are now more tech-savvy...
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Podcast Show Summary Guest Details: Guest: Paul McVoy, Shareholder at Repario Data. Key Takeaways: Evolution in e-Discovery: Paul shares how the industry evolved from paper-based processes to advanced technology, emphasizing how AI assists in document summarization and analysis. Ethical & Validation Standards in AI: Paul discusses the importance of transparency and validation in using AI for legal discovery, asserting that all tools should meet high standards to ensure reliability. Sedona Conference's Role: Paul highlights his role in shaping e-discovery frameworks, with an emphasis...
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Podcast Show Summary Guest Details Mary Cooper, Vice President, Account Management at UnitedLex. Key Takeaways Mary highlighted the importance of adaptability and resilience in career development. She emphasized the growing role of technology and legal tech in reshaping the legal industry. Leadership in legal account management requires a deep understanding of client needs and a strategic approach to problem-solving. Action Items Invest in learning new technologies related to legal services. Focus on building strong client relationships by understanding their unique challenges....
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Podcast Show Summary: Guest Details: Steve Davis, Vice President for Forensics and Education, Purpose Legal. Key Takeaways: 1. Steve shared his journey from a federal investigator to leading forensics, emphasizing how investigations have evolved with digital tools. 2. The importance of understanding where data resides (residency) and ensuring that redundant backups exist to prevent data loss during investigations. 3. Steve discussed how the growing role of AI in legal tech and eDiscovery is evolving, but he remains cautious about AI's current capabilities in forensics. Action Items: 1. When...
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Guest Details: Leah Bays, e-Discovery Attorney at Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd LLP, a plaintiff’s firm in San Diego that focuses on securities class actions, antitrust, and consumer fraud cases. Key Takeaways: 1. Career Journey and Passion for Plaintiffs’ Work: Leah’s transition from the defense bar to the plaintiff’s side was driven by her desire to protect and advocate for those with less power, particularly against large corporations. Her work in e-discovery at Robbins Geller allows her to fight for justice, leveraging technology to find critical facts that shape her...
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The latest episode of NeLI Pod is here! On this episode, Daniel and Brandon sit down with Tessa Jacob, partner at Husch Blackwell in Kansas City. Tessa leads the firm's industry-leading eDiscovery Solutions team and has multiple awards and accomplishments in the field, including an appointment to a three-year term on the Sedona Conference's Working Group 1 Steering Committee. Listen to Tessa's insights on the present and future of e-discovery and her practical tips for attorneys on how to effectively and efficiently manage an e-discovery process. No matter your experience with e-discovery,...
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In this inaugural episode of NeLI Pod - the official podcast of the National eDiscovery Leadership Institute - join co-hosts Daniel Gold and Brandon Mack as they welcome Robin Perkins, Partner at Kutak Rock and Founder of NeLI. As you'll hear in their discussion, Robin's passion for the eDiscovery field and especially for educating lawyers about the field is so strong that 10 years ago, she started a conference! The NeLI Conference 2024 will be September 19-20 in Kansas City. Robin also shares about her latest personal endeavor: buying a ranch! Resources: Visit the NeLI's website...
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Guest Details:
In this episode of Nellie Pod, hosts Daniel Gold and Braided Mac welcome Todd Itami, Director of Artificial Intelligence and Discovery Solutions at Covington Law Firm. Todd is a seasoned attorney and a recognized leader in AI and legal technology, specializing in integrating cutting-edge AI solutions into legal practice.
Key Takeaways:
- The Inevitable AI Revolution in Law – AI is no longer just about efficiency; it’s about creating new value. The way lawyers interact with data, analyze cases, and deliver insights will change fundamentally.
- The Future of eDiscovery – Traditional document review processes are wildly inefficient. AI-driven indexing and retrieval will transform eDiscovery by making large-scale document review smarter and faster.
- Adoption Challenges and Roadmap for AI in Law Firms – Firms must move beyond the hype and start integrating AI tools now, encouraging lawyers to experiment and develop real-world use cases.
Action Items:
- Lawyers should start using AI tools to understand their potential rather than waiting for "perfect" solutions.
- Firms must create a use-case registry to document and analyze the most effective AI applications in their practice.
- Legal professionals should invest in AI training, including short courses and hands-on practice with generative AI models.
Chapters with Timecodes:
[00:01:31] - Introduction of guest: Todd Itami, Covington Law Firm
[00:08:08] - Todd’s role in AI & eDiscovery solutions
[00:16:00] - How law firms are adopting AI and where the industry is headed
[00:26:22] - The inefficiencies of traditional eDiscovery and AI's role in solving them
[00:35:00] - The impact of better indexing and data retrieval on legal workflows
[00:44:30] - Practical roadmap for AI adoption in law firms
[00:57:20] - The importance of training lawyers in AI and technology
[01:05:00] - Why Todd believes this AI moment is different from past tech shifts
[01:20:40] - Final thoughts and the role of organizations like Nellie in AI education
Most Compelling Quote:
"I've yet to meet a lawyer who really digs into AI tools for 10 or 20 hours and then says, ‘Yeah, never mind.’ It’s just too valuable." – Todd Itami
Resources:
- Visit the NeLI's website at: www.ediscoveryleadership.org
- Visit UMKC School of Law: law.umkc.edu
- Hon. Andrew J. Peck (Ret.): https://www.dlapiper.com/en-us/people/p/peck-andrew-j
- Daniel Gold: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielegold
- Brandon Mack: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonmack
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