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Treat Your Relationship Like Work

The Business of Us

Release Date: 06/12/2024

Defining Success Beyond the Exit show art Defining Success Beyond the Exit

The Business of Us

Tom Bronson joins Cameron and Jamie to explore what happens when success isn’t the finish line but the beginning of a new journey. Drawing from his experience building and selling over 100 companies, Tom shares lessons on communication, alignment, and rediscovering purpose after a major business exit. This conversation invites entrepreneurial couples to reflect on what’s next and how to define success beyond the business. The Business of Us is brought to you by  and  Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always...

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From Breaking Point to Breakthrough show art From Breaking Point to Breakthrough

The Business of Us

Greg and Diana Keys share their journey through financial strain, burnout, and rediscovering connection when everything felt like it was falling apart. What began as a business crisis became the foundation for a stronger partnership—one built on honesty, teamwork, and vulnerability. This episode explores how redefining success and learning to be seen changed both their marriage and their business. The Business of Us is brought to you by  and  Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our...

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Making it Work Through the Chaos show art Making it Work Through the Chaos

The Business of Us

In this episode, Jamie interviews her co-host, Cameron Madill, about what it really takes for entrepreneurial couples to stay connected when business and life feel overwhelming. Cameron shares lessons from his personal journey, his research with hundreds of couples, and how small shifts—like creating slow spaces, building emotional awareness, and treating relationships with the same intentionality as business—can help partners make it work on the first mountain of entrepreneurship and love. The Business of Us is brought to you by  and  Music is provided by our friends...

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Rethinking Fairness in the Modern Relationship show art Rethinking Fairness in the Modern Relationship

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In this episode, Cameron and Jamie talk with author and mindfulness expert Nate Klemp, coauthor of The 80/80 Marriage and the upcoming book Busy Love. Nate shares insights on how couples can move beyond fairness toward generosity, balance ambition with intimacy, and stay connected amid the chaos of modern life. The conversation explores practical tools for building intentional, thriving relationships that grow alongside business and family. The Business of Us is brought to you by  and  Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr...

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Climbing the 3 Mountains of Love and Partnership show art Climbing the 3 Mountains of Love and Partnership

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In this episode, Cameron and Jamie introduce the Three Mountains Framework (partnership, purpose, and passion) as a way to understand the universal relationship challenges entrepreneurs and their spouses face across a lifetime. Drawing from personal stories, research, and therapeutic insights, they explore how couples can use these inevitable moments of strain to deepen intimacy, resilience, and connection. Key takeaways The Three Mountains Framework: Relationships evolve through three recurring challenges—How do we make it work (partnership)? What comes next (purpose)? Who are we now...

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From Resentment to Resilience: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun on Loving an Entrepreneur show art From Resentment to Resilience: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun on Loving an Entrepreneur

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knew early on that she was marrying an entrepreneur, but what she didn’t realize was how profoundly that choice would shape her life and marriage. In this vulnerable and honest conversation, Dorcas shares how the demands of entrepreneurship strained intimacy, sparked deep resentment, and nearly unraveled her sense of self—especially after becoming a parent. She offers insights on how spouses can reclaim their identity, foster connection, and survive the rollercoaster of startup life without losing themselves in the process. Key takeaways from today's episode: Why understanding your...

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The Emotional Labor of Entrepreneurship show art The Emotional Labor of Entrepreneurship

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Entrepreneurship isn’t just a career—it’s an emotional rollercoaster. The Business of Us dives into the mental health realities of entrepreneurs, exploring how pre-existing conditions can be exacerbated and, in some cases, entirely induced by the high-stakes world of business ownership. With 38% of entrepreneurs facing at least one mental health condition, we examine the personality traits that make founders thrive—and the emotional labor that comes with it. From the isolation and sleepless nights to the drive for achievement, we’ll unpack how business owners can protect their...

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There’s Always a High Five show art There’s Always a High Five

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and started their journey as a couple while debating the best way to turn their passion for gourmet food into a business. Rick had always dreamed of opening a restaurant, and when he launched his sandwich shop, their roles in both business and home life naturally fell into place. A year later, Emily started a catering company, and they implemented the 51/49 rule to balance decision-making. They work together all day and still like each other and want to see each other at the end of the day. Key takeaways from today's episode: Conflict is natural but must be managed carefully in front of...

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Grow Your Business Without Growing Apart show art Grow Your Business Without Growing Apart

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Entrepreneurial success and a thriving marriage don’t have to be at odds. joins to share how couples can bridge the ambition gap, balance Alpha and Beta energies, and apply six key principles to strengthen both their relationship and business. Discover why the best 10x strategy isn’t just in your company—it’s in your marriage. Key takeaways from today's episode: Entrepreneurial Success Starts at Home: While coaching with Strategic Coach in 2004, Kelly Clements saw a clear pattern—strong marriages correlated with business growth. The Ambition Gap: Many couples struggle when...

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Faith, Trust, and Starting Over: A Journey Through Marriage, Recovery, and Risk show art Faith, Trust, and Starting Over: A Journey Through Marriage, Recovery, and Risk

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In this heartfelt episode, and Andi share their journey of meeting in an unlikely place—an AA meeting—and building a relationship rooted in faith, trust, and resilience. They discuss how they embraced life’s "do-overs," turned post-traumatic challenges into growth, and took a leap of faith into entrepreneurship. Through fear, uncertainty, and unwavering trust in each other, they reveal the transformative power of patience, listening, and believing in second chances. Key takeaways from today's episode: Faith in Do-Overs: Life’s "mistakes" can be opportunities to grow and rebuild with...

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Key takeaways from today's episode:

  • Having a shared family vision and aligning on long-term goals, what they call the Decade Dream, fosters commitment and makes navigating conflict easier. 
  • Ongoing personal development is a crucial aspect of both business and relational success. It enhances individual resilience and enriches the relationship by allowing the shared family vision to truly incorporate all of each person. 
  • Consistent and open dialogue with a clear structure and regular cadence - just like a healthy business - helps manage expectations, communicate needs, and resolve conflicts.

The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby.

We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what’s on your mind.

Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.