The Business of Us
The Business of Us tells the stories of entrepreneurs and their relationships. In our podcast, we focus on what it means to be a couple when one or both partners own a business, the science around committed partnerships and entrepreneurial personalities, and specific actions you can take today to improve your relationship.
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Defining Success Beyond the Exit
01/13/2026
Defining Success Beyond the Exit
Tom Bronson joins Cameron and Jamie to explore what happens when success isn’t the finish line but the beginning of a new journey. Drawing from his experience building and selling over 100 companies, Tom shares lessons on communication, alignment, and rediscovering purpose after a major business exit. This conversation invites entrepreneurial couples to reflect on what’s next and how to define success beyond the business. The Business of Us is brought to you by and Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you’d like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind.
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From Breaking Point to Breakthrough
12/08/2025
From Breaking Point to Breakthrough
Greg and Diana Keys share their journey through financial strain, burnout, and rediscovering connection when everything felt like it was falling apart. What began as a business crisis became the foundation for a stronger partnership—one built on honesty, teamwork, and vulnerability. This episode explores how redefining success and learning to be seen changed both their marriage and their business. The Business of Us is brought to you by and Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you’d like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind.
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Making it Work Through the Chaos
11/10/2025
Making it Work Through the Chaos
In this episode, Jamie interviews her co-host, Cameron Madill, about what it really takes for entrepreneurial couples to stay connected when business and life feel overwhelming. Cameron shares lessons from his personal journey, his research with hundreds of couples, and how small shifts—like creating slow spaces, building emotional awareness, and treating relationships with the same intentionality as business—can help partners make it work on the first mountain of entrepreneurship and love. The Business of Us is brought to you by and Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you’d like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind.
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Rethinking Fairness in the Modern Relationship
10/13/2025
Rethinking Fairness in the Modern Relationship
In this episode, Cameron and Jamie talk with author and mindfulness expert Nate Klemp, coauthor of The 80/80 Marriage and the upcoming book Busy Love. Nate shares insights on how couples can move beyond fairness toward generosity, balance ambition with intimacy, and stay connected amid the chaos of modern life. The conversation explores practical tools for building intentional, thriving relationships that grow alongside business and family. The Business of Us is brought to you by and Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you’d like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind.
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Climbing the 3 Mountains of Love and Partnership
09/11/2025
Climbing the 3 Mountains of Love and Partnership
In this episode, Cameron and Jamie introduce the Three Mountains Framework (partnership, purpose, and passion) as a way to understand the universal relationship challenges entrepreneurs and their spouses face across a lifetime. Drawing from personal stories, research, and therapeutic insights, they explore how couples can use these inevitable moments of strain to deepen intimacy, resilience, and connection. Key takeaways The Three Mountains Framework: Relationships evolve through three recurring challenges—How do we make it work (partnership)? What comes next (purpose)? Who are we now (passion)? Zooming Out for Perspective: Stepping back to see challenges as part of a larger journey can reduce shame, resentment, and disconnection. Turning Points that Strengthen Relationships: Borrowing tools from business (clear roles, accountability), prioritizing rituals of quality time, and seeking outside perspective can help couples thrive under strain. Beyond Goal Achievement: Success doesn’t inoculate couples against disorientation; recalibration and open conversations about shifting identities and priorities are essential. Preparing for the Empty Nest: As career and parenting become less important, intentional planning for shared joy and individual meaning is essential so couples can grow together in their later years. The Business of Us is brought to you by and Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you’d like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind.
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From Resentment to Resilience: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun on Loving an Entrepreneur
07/14/2025
From Resentment to Resilience: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun on Loving an Entrepreneur
knew early on that she was marrying an entrepreneur, but what she didn’t realize was how profoundly that choice would shape her life and marriage. In this vulnerable and honest conversation, Dorcas shares how the demands of entrepreneurship strained intimacy, sparked deep resentment, and nearly unraveled her sense of self—especially after becoming a parent. She offers insights on how spouses can reclaim their identity, foster connection, and survive the rollercoaster of startup life without losing themselves in the process. Key takeaways from today's episode: Why understanding your partner's entrepreneurial mindset before marriage is critical for long-term connection. The hidden cost of not discussing paradigm differences: loneliness, resentment, and emotional distance. How to navigate the jealousy and frustration that can emerge when “the business” feels like a third party in your marriage. Strategies for maintaining your identity and resisting the pressure to define yourself by your partner’s success. A candid look at what happens when couples do “make it”—and why success doesn’t always equal happiness. The Business of US is brought to you by and . Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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The Emotional Labor of Entrepreneurship
05/19/2025
The Emotional Labor of Entrepreneurship
Entrepreneurship isn’t just a career—it’s an emotional rollercoaster. The Business of Us dives into the mental health realities of entrepreneurs, exploring how pre-existing conditions can be exacerbated and, in some cases, entirely induced by the high-stakes world of business ownership. With 38% of entrepreneurs facing at least one mental health condition, we examine the personality traits that make founders thrive—and the emotional labor that comes with it. From the isolation and sleepless nights to the drive for achievement, we’ll unpack how business owners can protect their well-being without sacrificing their ambition. Key takeaways from today's episode: Entrepreneurship demands massive emotional labor—understanding it is the first step to managing it. Mental health struggles aren’t uncommon in entrepreneurship; the highs and lows of the journey can amplify or even create them. Founders benefit from prioritizing mental well-being—sleep, social support, outdoor time, and self-care matter as much as strategy. The “Entrepreneurial Emotional Labor Union” mindset: you’re not alone, and you don’t have to carry the burden in silence. Be a realist: don’t pretend things are great when they aren’t, and remember to set goals beyond just business success. Entrepreneurship can be addictive—balance ambition with personal well-being. Always love something as much as you love your company. The Business of US is brought to you by and . Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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There’s Always a High Five
04/21/2025
There’s Always a High Five
and started their journey as a couple while debating the best way to turn their passion for gourmet food into a business. Rick had always dreamed of opening a restaurant, and when he launched his sandwich shop, their roles in both business and home life naturally fell into place. A year later, Emily started a catering company, and they implemented the 51/49 rule to balance decision-making. They work together all day and still like each other and want to see each other at the end of the day. Key takeaways from today's episode: Conflict is natural but must be managed carefully in front of employees to foster a culture where disagreement is productive, not personal. Differentiating between a conflict of ideas and a conflict of personalities is crucial for maintaining a healthy business relationship. Knowing when to step back and when to step in is essential for effective leadership and partnership. Creating clear boundaries and rituals —like their "high five" ritual—helps maintain a strong personal connection outside of work. The Business of US is brought to you by and . Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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Grow Your Business Without Growing Apart
03/24/2025
Grow Your Business Without Growing Apart
Entrepreneurial success and a thriving marriage don’t have to be at odds. joins to share how couples can bridge the ambition gap, balance Alpha and Beta energies, and apply six key principles to strengthen both their relationship and business. Discover why the best 10x strategy isn’t just in your company—it’s in your marriage. Key takeaways from today's episode: Entrepreneurial Success Starts at Home: While coaching with Strategic Coach in 2004, Kelly Clements saw a clear pattern—strong marriages correlated with business growth. The Ambition Gap: Many couples struggle when one partner pushes for growth while the other resists. Understanding this gap is key to alignment. Alpha vs. Beta Spectrum: High-driving Alphas and stability-seeking Betas must blend strengths to reach Omega—a balanced, thriving partnership. 6 Presence Principles: Play, Praise, Purpose, Provision, Protection, and Pursuit—key habits that fuel both business and love. Masculine & Feminine Energy Balance: Success comes from integrating assertive (masculine) and intuitive (feminine) energies in both relationships and work. The Best 10x Strategy: A thriving marriage is the foundation for a thriving business—invest in your relationship for the biggest returns. The Business of US is brought to you by and . Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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Faith, Trust, and Starting Over: A Journey Through Marriage, Recovery, and Risk
02/20/2025
Faith, Trust, and Starting Over: A Journey Through Marriage, Recovery, and Risk
In this heartfelt episode, and Andi share their journey of meeting in an unlikely place—an AA meeting—and building a relationship rooted in faith, trust, and resilience. They discuss how they embraced life’s "do-overs," turned post-traumatic challenges into growth, and took a leap of faith into entrepreneurship. Through fear, uncertainty, and unwavering trust in each other, they reveal the transformative power of patience, listening, and believing in second chances. Key takeaways from today's episode: Faith in Do-Overs: Life’s "mistakes" can be opportunities to grow and rebuild with intention. Post-Traumatic Growth: Adversity can strengthen roots and foster profound personal and relational growth. Unwavering Trust: Trusting one another creates a foundation, even when self-confidence falters. Responding to Fear with Faith: Facing fears and uncertainties with faith can lead to unexpected rewards. The Power of Listening: Listening without the urge to fix can deepen connection and understanding. Patience and Reaching Out: Taking time and seeking support are essential steps in cultivating faith and resilience. The Business of US is brought to you by and . Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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Balancing Acts: Women, Entrepreneurship, and the Currency of Time
01/19/2025
Balancing Acts: Women, Entrepreneurship, and the Currency of Time
This episode explores the unique challenges women entrepreneurs face in balancing business, love, and family, featuring journey from reluctant entrepreneur to financial advocate. Lauren shares insights on empowering women financially, valuing time as currency, navigating a business exit, and designing a fulfilling life with intentionality and balance. Key takeaways from today's episode: Unique Challenges for Women Entrepreneurs: Women often face societal expectations to manage childcare and emotional labor as well as to not overshadow their spouse, adding to the mental toll of balancing business, love, and family. Designing Your Life: Success requires prioritization and realistic expectations. Lauren shares her experiences growing a successful PR agency while being a mother and navigating a divorce, and some of the life trade-offs she believes are necessary to achieve a fulfilling life. Time is our Most Precious Resource: Time is Lauren’s most precious currency, reflected in her decision to take 90 days off to realign priorities and balance work with personal fulfillment. She shares her belief that we often have a financial target where we believe we will feel secure, but that when we get there it’s still not enough. Financial Empowerment for Women: Through the () project, Lauren advocates for healthier financial relationships and highlights the importance of empowering women and daughters to take control of their finances. Even some of the most successful female entrepreneurs still have financial anxieties and scarcity mindsets due to legacy societal limitations. The Business of US is brought to you by and . Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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Treat Your Family As Your Most Important Asset
12/16/2024
Treat Your Family As Your Most Important Asset
Join us as we explore the intricate dynamics of being married to an entrepreneur. In this episode, we delve into the unique challenges and triumphs faced by a spouse. Our guest , a seasoned performance coach for veterans, athletes, and entrepreneurs, shares personal insights from her own experience as well as findings from interviews with 40 entrepreneurial spouses. Key takeaways from today's episode: Ashley heard three common themes from life partners of entrepreneurs: Different Risk Profiles & Levels of Optimism: Understanding and managing differing attitudes towards risk and optimism between partners. Challenges around Stress & Control: Coping with high levels of stress due to unpredictability and lack of control over entrepreneurial ventures. Loneliness: Addressing feelings of loneliness from having a partner who works long hours and who is often distracted even when physically present. She suggested the following strategies to build a stronger relationship: Start talking early and often to build a shared vision that ensures alignment and mutual understanding as a couple. There will be personal sacrifices in any relationship, and putting one's own dreams and ambitions on hold temporarily is much easier if the end goal is shared. Realizing you are not alone in these experiences and seeking outside therapeutic guidance for support. Remembering that the things that might drive you crazy about your partner are also why you feel in love in the first place. It will be a big, full life that is never dull. Tune in to gain valuable perspectives and actionable advice for maintaining a healthy, supportive relationship while pursuing entrepreneurial success. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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Talk About it Before it Blows Up
12/02/2024
Talk About it Before it Blows Up
Join us as we dive into the ups and downs of marriage, where challenges become the gritty canvas for greatness. and Stott share their journey of building a family and multiple businesses together by having fun in the mud, understanding each other’s strengths, and connecting around shared and individual goals. Key takeaways from today's episode: Relentless Resilience: Challenges are the stepping stones to greatness; embrace the dirt and grit instead of trying to become an “Instagram couple” focused on external perceptions. Unique Strengths: Recognize and celebrate individual strengths and weaknesses in partnerships. Marriage and Business Synergy: Effective communication and shared goals strengthen both personal and business relationships. Defining Wealth: Wealth is multifaceted, extending beyond financial means to include shared values and goals. Shared Mission: Learn about the efforts to prevent child trafficking and heal trauma survivors. Entrepreneurial Advice: Open communication and mutual respect for shared and individual goals are key to success. Tune in to hear more about our journey and how you can apply these principles in your own life and ventures! The Business of US is brought to you by and . Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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Harnessing ADHD Strengths in Relationships
11/18/2024
Harnessing ADHD Strengths in Relationships
In this episode, therapist , explores the intricate dynamics of ADHD and relationships. Several years ago, Anita found herself struggling as a new mother with ADHD and, in the process of her own relationship growth and adaptation, realized that most relationship tools didn’t work for ADHD without refinement. Anita sheds light on the different ways ADHD can show up in our behavior and how to channel the unique ways ADHD can invigorate relationships, such as passion and novelty-seeking. Key takeaways from today's episode: Understanding ADHD: Recognize the variability in how ADHD presents and its influence on executive functioning and sensory experiences. Harnessing ADHD Strengths: Leverage qualities like passion and novelty-seeking to enrich relationships. Five Pillars of ADHD Relationships: Growth mindset, praise, games, and positive acceptance are essential for thriving partnerships. Effective Household Management: Transform chores into engaging games with minimal steps, using playlists and rewards. Dopamine and Brain Performance: Keep dopamine levels high to optimize focus and relationship dynamics. Relationship Bootcamps: Structured activities can help partners learn to appreciate and utilize their differences. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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Two Couples, One Vision: Powering Through Entrepreneurship Together
11/06/2024
Two Couples, One Vision: Powering Through Entrepreneurship Together
In this episode, we delve into the unique challenges and opportunities that arise when two married couples, and , and and , come together to pursue an entrepreneurial endeavor. The four individuals bring diverse backgrounds and experiences, from wealth management and healthcare to operational consulting and the automotive industry. Together, they have formed Slanted Saguaro, LLC, with the goal of acquiring and turning around struggling businesses. Key takeaways from today's episode: Aligning Business Vision and Strategies: The couples discuss the importance of building trust, open communication, and a shared understanding of their goals and objectives. They share insights on how they navigate the complexities of aligning their individual visions and strategies while maintaining the integrity of their marriages. Balancing Work and Personal Life: The hosts explore the challenges of ensuring that their marriage and personal relationships do not get lost in the hustle and bustle of their entrepreneurial venture. They share strategies for carving out dedicated time for each other, such as their weekly Monday night date night, and how they prioritize staying connected. Building Wealth and Giving Back: The couples reveal their overarching goal of not only building wealth but also investing in and empowering people and the community. They discuss their commitment to fostering meaningful relationships and their desire to have a positive impact beyond just their business endeavors. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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Running So Fast I Didn’t See the Freight Train
09/26/2024
Running So Fast I Didn’t See the Freight Train
In this episode, Rico Rodriguez discusses how, despite overcoming a difficult childhood to find entrepreneurial success, he still faced severe mental health issues affecting his life and relationships. Rico shares his journey to inspire others to seek help and remind them they're not alone. Key takeaways from today's episode: Mental health challenges can't always be controlled or overcome by willpower. Self-talk is important; be kind to yourself. Healing requires self-ownership, support, and vulnerability. Understanding ADHD's impact is essential. Entrepreneurs often hide mental health struggles behind achievement and professionalism. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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Don’t Defer Health or Happiness
09/05/2024
Don’t Defer Health or Happiness
In this episode, we sit down with Brad Feld and Amy Batchelor, the authors of "The Start-Up Life," to discuss the often-overlooked challenges entrepreneurs and their partners face. They share insights on how to maintain a healthy relationship and personal well-being while navigating the demanding world of startups. From the difference between external perceptions and reality, to aligning the rhythm of business and personal life, Brad and Amy offer practical advice for founders and their loved ones to thrive together. Key takeaways from today's episode: Acknowledge the discrepancy between the glamorized image of startup life and the actual day-to-day challenges. Openly communicate and set realistic expectations with your partner. Mind the “integrity gap.” Amy and Brad almost got divorced because he would say one thing but then go do another. They share how to get back in integrity with one another and restore that broken trust. Plus 1 minus 5: The math of relationships means that every positive action counts as +1 but every negative action counts as -5. We need to be mindful of all the little actions we take in our relationship to ensure that it thrives, and that is especially about the little moments of kindness and respect. Don't let the rhythms and demands of entrepreneurship override your relationship. Brad shares his commitment to always answer the phone when Amy calls, no matter what the context, along with other tactics to ensure his actions and priorities align with his commitment to Amy. The importance of investing in your personal well-being through therapy, coaching, and a commitment to self-improvement. Entrepreneurial mental health and wellness should be a priority, not an afterthought. Seek support and resources to maintain a healthy mindset. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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Rituals for Love and Life
08/15/2024
Rituals for Love and Life
In this episode, we'll explore how two entrepreneurs, who met in a spiritual and non-coincidental way, have harnessed the transformative power of choice and belief to create a life filled with intention, connection, and balance. Key takeaways from today's episode: The difference between routine and ritual is intention. We'll discuss three powerful rituals our guests have implemented, including Sunday check-ins, quarterly "love dates", and bi-monthly date nights. The transferable skill set between relationship rituals in romantic partnerships and business relationships. Our guests share how the same principles can be applied to cultivate deeper connections in both realms. The importance of non-violent communication in relational intimacy and connection and how to get unstuck, including learnings from men’s groups; authenticity is not a virtue, authenticity with positive intent is a virtue. Practical suggestions on how listeners can identify the rituals that will work best for them, based on their unique needs and desires. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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Don’t Forget To Love Each Other
07/16/2024
Don’t Forget To Love Each Other
Join us as we explore the intricate connection between entrepreneurship, personal relationships, and the power of aligning your core values. We'll delve into the common challenges faced by founders and spouses, including the dynamics of different personality types. Discover practical strategies to create a sustainable template for success in both your business and personal life. Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur or navigating the complexities of a close relationship, this episode is packed with insights to help you thrive. Key takeaways from today's episode: Establish a clear template for your entrepreneurial and relationship journeys by using your core values as a guiding filter. Use your strengths and risk tolerance levels within your relationship to drive growth and connection at home (and in your business). See your entrepreneurial journey not as a destination but as an exploration to truly become yourself, individually, and in your relationship. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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Treat Your Relationship Like Work
06/12/2024
Treat Your Relationship Like Work
Ann and Sunny Sheu share their story of connecting over a glass of Sprite, working in the family business together until a prenup pulled it apart, and rebuilding their relationship by focusing on themselves to build an intentional relationship focused on their “decade dream.” Key takeaways from today's episode: Having a shared family vision and aligning on long-term goals, what they call the Decade Dream, fosters commitment and makes navigating conflict easier. Ongoing personal development is a crucial aspect of both business and relational success. It enhances individual resilience and enriches the relationship by allowing the shared family vision to truly incorporate all of each person. Consistent and open dialogue with a clear structure and regular cadence - just like a healthy business - helps manage expectations, communicate needs, and resolve conflicts. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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The Third Person in the Relationship: The Entrepreneurial Couple Project
05/13/2024
The Third Person in the Relationship: The Entrepreneurial Couple Project
Welcome to The Business of Us, a podcast where we delve into the fascinating dynamics of entrepreneurial couples and how they navigate both their personal and professional worlds. In Episode 2, we learn more about Cameron Madill, a seasoned coach and the visionary behind The Entrepreneurial Couple Project. Let's explore the unique challenges and triumphs faced by couples who mix business with romance. Key takeaways from today’s episode: Learn how Cameron embarked on a mission to understand how entrepreneurship affects couples and their relationships. The 4 kinds of Entrepreneurial Couples. Identify internal and external challenges for each type. Practical strategies and tips to apply to strengthen your relationship immediately. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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The Faulty Electrical Wiring in Entrepreneurial Couples
04/11/2024
The Faulty Electrical Wiring in Entrepreneurial Couples
Jamie Born, a therapist and expert in working with entrepreneurs, joins us to talk about the "faulty electrical wiring" that often damages families where one of the parents is a business owner, why the myth of affluence often causes these families to be complacent until it's too late, and how a couple can proactively protect and strengthen their relationship. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is “Kenton” by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at to share what’s on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.
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