Between The Bells: Why Educators Are Leaving The Classroom

In this episode, Kat and Liz sit down with guest Vivica Marino-Richard to unpack a growing crisis in education: why so many teachers are leaving the profession. From burnout and lack of support to systemic challenges in schools, they explore the real reasons behind the exodus—and what it means for the future of education. It's an eye-opening conversation you won’t want to miss.

Credit: Ben M. Eble, Illustrator and Designer. Jack Snyder, Musician. Featuring Josette Cook Surratt.