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AI Takeoffs in Minutes with Patrick Murphy of Togal.AI

Builder Straight Talk Podcast

Release Date: 07/01/2025

Builder Mindset to Business Mindset with Duane Johns of Alair Homes show art Builder Mindset to Business Mindset with Duane Johns of Alair Homes

Builder Straight Talk Podcast

Most builders hit a wall. They work 80-hour weeks, carry tools, manage crews, chase payments, and somehow still struggle to make ends meet. Sound familiar? That was Duane Johns twenty years ago, grinding it out in Charlotte, North Carolina after moving from the Hamptons. Then 2008 hit. While other builders went under, Duane used the crisis as a mirror.  "I think that that too, one thing that happened in that 2008 environment, especially the few years after, was everyone got reduced to a commodity, you know, I mean, the builders or modelers, they had the lower hand, no doubt."  The...

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Scaling a Construction Business: From College Dropout to $100M+ Builder show art Scaling a Construction Business: From College Dropout to $100M+ Builder

Builder Straight Talk Podcast

Starting a construction company during the 2008 recession sounds insane, but sometimes desperation breeds the best business decisions. Matt Millsap's story starts like a lot of ours do - working weekends with dad, thinking he was going to hang out with friends but ending up tearing out bathrooms instead. What makes his story different is where it goes from there. After flunking out of college, Matt found himself cutting grass for a builder who saw something in the kid. That builder, Mark, became the mentor who taught him everything. It was old-school apprenticeship at its finest, and Matt...

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Road to 1,000,000 Doors: Will You Join Us? | Brian Coffman of Sound Capital show art Road to 1,000,000 Doors: Will You Join Us? | Brian Coffman of Sound Capital

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You know that moment when you're staring at a project and wondering if you're about to make a fortune or lose your shirt? Brian Coffman, Director of Homebuilder Finance at Sound Capital, has been on both sides of that conversation thousands of times, and he's got some real talk for builders ready to scale up. Michael Krisa sits down with Brian to tackle a question that keeps a lot of builders up at night: what separates those who successfully jump from 10 houses to 50 houses from those who flame out trying?  Turns out, it's not about having the best crew or knowing the slickest...

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From One Man Show to 800 Doors a Year: Learning to Let Go | Adrian C. Avila show art From One Man Show to 800 Doors a Year: Learning to Let Go | Adrian C. Avila

Builder Straight Talk Podcast

Picture this: an eight-year-old kid on construction sites, already reading blueprints like other kids read comic books. That's how Adrian C. Avila's story begins, learning from his uncle who took him everywhere and taught him the fundamentals that would shape his entire career. Fast forward to today, and Adrian runs AVICA Construction and Development, averaging over 800 doors a year across residential, commercial, and industrial projects. But the most compelling part of his journey happened when he was 29 and faced what he calls a "death experience" that forced him to completely rethink how he...

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What Builders Get Wrong about Marketing with Kelly Bosetti Primeau show art What Builders Get Wrong about Marketing with Kelly Bosetti Primeau

Builder Straight Talk Podcast

Michael Krisa welcomes Kelly Bosetti Primeau, an award-winning marketing strategist who has spent 28 years helping builders and developers scale their businesses. This episode quickly evolved into a masterclass on residential marketing strategy. Kelly reveals that many builders essentially forgot how to market during the COVID boom years. Now that the market has normalized, builders are scrambling to relearn fundamental marketing skills they neglected during the easy times. One of Kelly's core principles involves comprehensive research before launching any campaigns. She shares compelling...

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Third-Generation Builder, First-Time Entrepreneur: How Cammie Hancock Beckert Carved Her Own Path show art Third-Generation Builder, First-Time Entrepreneur: How Cammie Hancock Beckert Carved Her Own Path

Builder Straight Talk Podcast

Sometimes the best builders are the ones who never planned to build. And Cammie Hancock Beckert proves that taking the long way around can lead to exactly where you're supposed to be. As the founder of Cameron Custom Homes & Renovations and a third-generation member of the Camelot Homes family, Cammie spent years avoiding the family business only to discover it was her calling all along. On this episode of Builder Straight Talk, Cammie breaks down how she went from market research and land brokerage to leading a custom division that's redefining luxury building in Arizona. "I had to prove...

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Chaos to Systems: Why Professional Builders Need Coaching, with Cole Tilbury show art Chaos to Systems: Why Professional Builders Need Coaching, with Cole Tilbury

Builder Straight Talk Podcast

Building houses? You've got that covered. But building a business that doesn't rely on you working 80-hour weeks while making $25 an hour? That's where most builders hit the wall. Cole Tilbury, performance coach with The Professional Builder, is helping construction pros break free from the chaos cycle and build businesses that actually work for them instead of against them. With nearly two years coaching builders across North America, Cole has seen the same pattern over and over: skilled craftsmen trapped in their own success, spinning plates instead of scaling profits. On this episode of...

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Laborers to Leaders with Sergio Barajas show art Laborers to Leaders with Sergio Barajas

Builder Straight Talk Podcast

In this episode of Builder Straight Talk, Michael Krisa invited Sergio Barajas to explore the construction industry's critical labor shortage and how the NHCA is addressing it through education, networking, and business development. Sergio shares how the alliance grew from zero to 2,500 members across eight markets in just 14 months, with plans to reach 5,000 members in 15 markets by year-end. The conversation covers the stigmatization of blue-collar work over the past 20 years and how removing shop classes from schools disconnected young people from building trades. With only 1.3-1.4 people...

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Building Legacy: Patrick Lawler on Second-Generation Leadership in Construction show art Building Legacy: Patrick Lawler on Second-Generation Leadership in Construction

Builder Straight Talk Podcast

In this episode of Builder Straight Talk, host Michael Krisa welcomes Patrick Lawler, Vice President of Lawler Construction, Inc., to discuss his journey from professional baseball player to construction industry leader.   As the son of company founder Jim Lawler (), Patrick shares insights on family business dynamics, faith-based leadership, and the evolving challenges facing the construction industry. What we discussed with Patrick: From Sports to Construction Patrick's unexpected path from minor league baseball to the family construction business during the 2008 recession. Working on...

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Building More than Houses with Tanya Cromwell of Caddis Builders show art Building More than Houses with Tanya Cromwell of Caddis Builders

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Michael Krisa sits down with Tanya Cromwell, one of the founding and managing owners of Caddis Builders in Eastern Idaho, to explore the practical side of running a successful construction company in today's competitive market.   Tanya's journey began in 1995 when she couldn't find a house design she liked and decided to teach herself AutoCAD and build her own home. Three decades later, she's built an impressive dual career running both Idaho Home Design, which designs 125 homes a year and creates renderings for Parade of Homes magazine, and Caddis Builders, which handles everything from...

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Can AI create comprehensive takeoffs in minutes, and save you time? In this episode, I sit down with Patrick Murphy of Togal.AI to explore his solution to tedious takeoffs, compliance and staying within budget.
 
"If a human can interpret plans, why can't a computer?"
 
Patrick also shares his other venture - RENCO - providing innovative, greener and cheaper building blocks.
 
"One person built a 1,500-square-foot house alone in a day."
 
Patrick Murphy's career path reads like a modern American story: CPA at Deloitte, two-term U.S. Congressman, and now construction tech entrepreneur. In this episode, Patrick shares how he's using AI to solve one of construction's biggest inefficiencies - estimating - and how he's revolutionizing building materials with recycled composite blocks.
 
Patrick Murphy is Chief Investment Officer of Coastal Construction, where he started as a day laborer and worked his way up through project engineering, estimating, and accounting. A CPA with experience at Deloitte & Touche, Patrick is now pioneering AI-driven construction technology through Togal.ai and CodeComply.ai, while developing the RENCO composite building system.
 
He served four years in Congress representing Palm Beach and the Treasure Coast, and currently serves on President Biden's Export Council as the only appointee from the construction industry.
 
From Tedious Takeoffs to AI Innovation
Patrick opens up about the construction world's biggest time-waster: manual estimating. He describes how 50-60% of his family's construction team spent their days "coloring plans and counting materials" - a process that sparked his lightbulb moment about AI automation.
 
Togal.ai: How Does it Work?
We dive into the nuts and bolts of Patrick's AI platform, from uploading PDF plans to getting instant takeoffs in seconds. Patrick explains how the system serves everyone from small contractors to billion-dollar companies for $250 per user per month, and shares the story of one customer who grew 215% in 40 days instead of their planned 25%.
 
AI's Future in Construction
Patrick paints a picture of construction in five years, where you could input your address, budget, and style preferences and get a fully compliant design instantly. He envisions AI optimizing everything from plumbing layouts to permitting, potentially bringing construction productivity back to Empire State Building-era levels.
 
Building with LEGO-Like Blocks
The conversation shifts to Patrick's other venture, Renco, which creates building blocks from recycled materials that snap together like LEGOs. Patrick walks through the 10-year journey and 450 tests required to get regulatory approval for blocks that are 80% greener and 20% cheaper than traditional materials.
 
Skilled Labor Crisis
The harsh reality is that for every five builders retiring, only 1.5 enter the trades, while the country needs to build a million homes annually. Patrick explains how both AI and innovative materials can help bridge this gap by reducing the need for highly skilled labor.
 
Education and the Devaluation of Trades
We also discuss how American culture has systematically undervalued trade work while pushing everyone toward traditional college paths. Patrick advocates for bringing back shop class and teaching practical skills alongside AI literacy and critical thinking.
 
Lessons from Congress
Patrick reflects on his time in Washington, sharing observations about partisan dysfunction and the incentive structures that reward division over problem-solving. He discusses his book "A Divided Union" and what he learned about governance during his two terms representing Palm Beach.
 
Resources
* Togal.ai - AI-powered construction takeoff software
* Renco - Renewable composite building blocks
* Patrick's book, "A Divided Union"