E54: Tony Chatman: Cultivating Leadership by Uncovering Our Unconscious Bias
ThriveMore with Roger Martin: Business, Health, & Wealth
Release Date: 02/26/2024
ThriveMore with Roger Martin: Business, Health, & Wealth
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info_outline“Leadership is all about leading people. If you can't effectively lead people, you can't be considered an effective leader.” These are the words of this episode’s guest; speaker, corporate relations expert, and author of the book The Force Multiplier Tony Chatman. With over 20 years’ experience working with some of the most successful and diverse organizations in the world—including Chase Bank, Estée Lauder, the U.S. Secret Service, N.O.A.A., and N.A.S.A.—Tony unites the variance in people’s beliefs, backgrounds, personalities, perspectives, and all levels of power as he voices our shared need for recognition.
Tony presents an introspective look at the shortcomings in leadership development, citing reasons such as misplaced promotions and a lack of investment in nurturing managerial skills. He identifies insecurities and power dynamics as the underlying currents eroding the foundations of effective leadership. With a compelling blend of vulnerability and insight, Tony reflects on his personal journey of leaving a stable full-time job to take a leap of faith into the nonprofit sector, underscoring the choice's transformational impact on his life decisions thereafter.
Probing further into human psychology, Tony gives listeners a thorough breakdown of the concept of unconscious bias—the invisible forces shaping our decisions—and how recognizing and challenging these biases can dramatically influence our leadership and hiring practices. Tony dishes out real talk about the insecurities plaguing those in power and how, more often than not, those at the helm might not be the leadership maestros they fancy themselves to be. With tips on how to sidestep your subconscious from leading you astray and learning to turn yourself into a work and life force multiplier, Tony and Roger give us a masterclass in self-improvement.
Topics Include:
- Defining and Unpacking the Concept of Force Multipliers
- Exploring The Responsibility of Management on Employee Engagement
- The Four Reasons Organizations Are Not Developing Strong Leaders
- Addressing The Disturbing Vacuum of Leadership In Entrepreneurship
- Defining and Truly Understanding the Concept of Unconscious Bias
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