Episode 138 - Legacy Conversations: Truth, Trust & Identity - Leadership for the Next Generation
Release Date: 11/10/2025
Episode 143 - Young Adult Stories 2: Built to Last
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Leadership: After hearing how it all began, this conversation with Cris and Kyana explores how it’s being sustained. Two leaders reflect on building something that lasts—sharing wisdom on humility, vision, and raising up the next generation with care and intention. Reach out to us at and find more information about The Hills Church at .
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Episode 142 - Young Adult Stories 1: We Were Here When
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Beginnings: From living rooms to hundreds gathered—Makayla, Tyler and Valeria tell the origin story of the young adult minsitry at The Hills. Hear how friendship, consistency, and obedience created space for God to move in powerful ways. This is a story of humble beginnings, faithful yeses, and a spark that grew into something only God could orchestrate. Reach out to us at and find more information about The Hills Church at .
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Episode 141 - Four Insights on the Real Work of Intergenerational Community
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In this episode, Jill sits down with Eunice Lin Nichols, Co-CEO of CoGenerate and co-author of the groundbreaking report Honest Conversations: Faith Leaders on the Real Work of Intergenerational Collaboration. Together, they explore what it really takes for churches to bring generations together in meaningful, transformational ways—not just on paper, not just symbolically, but in ways that change culture, repair conflict, share power, and deepen relationships across age groups. This conversation is honest, hopeful, and deeply practical for pastors, parents, ministry leaders, and anyone who...
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Episode 140 - Fall Up Into Identity
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In this episode of Next Gen Now, Jill sits down with missionary, discipler, and children’s author Bradyn Boone, whose book The Boy Who Falls Up has been sparking conversations about identity, freedom, and the transforming love of God. Bradyn shares the story behind the book, how identity exchange became central to his ministry, and why he believes God is reshaping how this generation sees Him—and themselves. Together they explore: • The surprising origin story of The Boy Who Falls Up • What “identity exchange” means and how it...
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Episode 139 - Legacy Conversations: Drinking Deep - Wisdom for the Generations
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To conclude Season 7, Jill sits down with a spiritual mother, Debb Webb — a Kingdom teacher whose journey has moved from leading a traditional church to cultivating Spirit-led, home-based Kingdom communities as part of the Legacy Conversation series. This episode draws from a deep well of wisdom. It’s the kind of conversation that may feel like drinking from a fire hydrant — dense, layered, and overflowing with revelation. Together, Jill and Debb explore themes that range wide and deep: -The meaning behind the title “Son of Man” and key Hebrew words that reveal God’s heart...
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Episode 138 - Legacy Conversations: Truth, Trust & Identity - Leadership for the Next Generation
Next Gen Now
In this Legacy Conversation, Jill sits down with longtime friend and fellow educator Chad McNatt, now the Head of Seattle Christian School. From serving together as principals in Rwanda to leading schools and ministries today, their conversation explores what it means to lead to and with the next generation while preparing them to lead in the future. Together they talk about: -The three threads the next generation needs most — Truth, Trust, and Identity -What today’s students need from leaders and mentors -How to equip and empower young people to lead now -The kind of leaders the next...
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Episode 137 - The Power of Blessing
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The Power of Blessing: Theology, Practice, and Presence Jill is joined by three key voices in the Local Houses of Prayer movement — Anne deLeyser (Director of Local Houses of Prayer), C’havala Crawley, and Sharon Van Horn — to explore one of the most beautiful and transformative practices in the Kingdom: blessing. Together, they unpack the theology, practice, and power of blessing—how it flows from God’s heart, shapes communities, and awakens spiritual renewal right where we live. Whether you’re a parent, ministry leader, or someone hungry to see the Kingdom come in your...
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Episode 136 - Faith Like a Child: A Conversation with Lacy Finn Borgo
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We’re thrilled to welcome back author, teacher, and spiritual director Lacy Finn Borgo to the Next Gen Now Podcast. In her book Faith Like a Child, Lacy invites us to rediscover the kingdom of God through the lens of childlike trust, wonder, and presence. In this episode, we dive deeper into: • What Lacy is learning about walking with Jesus in childlike faith. • How children model prayer, presence, and trust in ways adults often forget. • The importance of cultivating intergenerational discipleship...
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Episode 135 - More Than We Can Ask or Imagine: Ask for Nations & Generations Weekend
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On this episode, we look ahead to a powerful weekend at The Hills—November 15–17, 2025—when our church family will gather across generations and cultures to seek God together in worship and prayer. Senior Pastor Rick Atchley, Kingdom Expansion Minister Chris Shelby, and Valeria Guillory, a Young Adult leader, join us for a roundtable conversation about the heart behind the theme More Than We Can Ask or Imagine: Ask for Nations & Generations. Together we talk about: -Why this weekend is so important for our church in this season -How prayer is preparing us now through the altar...
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Episode 134 - Meet Samantha Williams: New Kids Minister at WFW
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In this episode of the Next Gen Now Podcast, we introduce Samantha Williams, the new Kids Minister at our West Fort Worth campus. Samantha shares her faith journey, how the Lord called her into ministry, and what drew her to join The Hills staff family. We talk about: -Samantha’s story of coming to faith and milestones along the way. -What drew her heart to kids ministry and how God has used her past experiences to prepare her for this role. -The opportunities she sees for kids, students, and families at West Fort Worth. -Her vision for partnering with parents and...
info_outlineIn this Legacy Conversation, Jill sits down with longtime friend and fellow educator Chad McNatt, now the Head of Seattle Christian School. From serving together as principals in Rwanda to leading schools and ministries today, their conversation explores what it means to lead to and with the next generation while preparing them to lead in the future.
Together they talk about:
-The three threads the next generation needs most — Truth, Trust, and Identity
-What today’s students need from leaders and mentors
-How to equip and empower young people to lead now
-The kind of leaders the next generation is becoming
-How parents, teachers, and ministry leaders can guide them for this moment and this mission
Chad also references two books that have shaped his thinking about engaging culture and forming resilient faith:
So the Next Generation Will Know by Sean McDowell and J. Warner Wallace
A Practical Guide to Culture by John Stonestreet and Brett Kunkle
This is a practical and hope-filled conversation for anyone investing in the next generation — from parents and pastors to teachers and mentors — offering wisdom for how to help students build lives anchored in truth, shaped by trust, and secure in their identity in Christ.
The advent guide referenced in the intro will be included in next week's podcast show notes.
Reach out to us at nextgennow@thehills.org and find more information about The Hills Church at www.thehills.org.