Episode 10 - A Very Thin Piece of Ham with Mike Lisk
Release Date: 01/26/2026
Episode 10 - A Very Thin Piece of Ham with Mike Lisk
Empathy at the Apocalypse
The boys host Mike Lisk (AKA AP Mike from the Best Show with Tom Scharpling)! Josh and Andy start the show talking about their parents' differing reactions to the music they were listening to when they were developing their own tastes (2 Live Crew, Suicidal Tendencies, Sonic Youth, Pearl Jam etc.), The Frogs' discography, Josh's job search, divorce, Marvel movies, seeing films at home vs in the theater, Julia Ducorneau movies, Paul Thomas Anderson movies, liquid movie theater butter, popcorn machines, Flavacol and popcorn popping techniques, Josh is gifted five pounds of bacon, haluski,...
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Episode 9 - A Flag Made of Cheese
Empathy at the Apocalypse
The boys talk about the "Christmas gift room" in your home, Josh walks away from the mic to water his dog, Andy gives his dog a ham bone, confusing comic strips, picking up a tobacco habit late in life, physical media, Josh pulls out a beanbag chair-size bag of popcorn, guys walking female dogs, Josh and Andy talk about Josh's towheaded son, hair talk, Josh tells a story about his dad walking the rough streets of Pittsburgh, pierogi talk, Josh lists 12 Christmas traditions from around the globe, Josh's favorite film of 2025, Josh talks about The Long Walk (2025), if dogs could talk, food...
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Episode 8 - I LOVE ROBUTS?
Empathy at the Apocalypse
The boys talk about what they've been up to since the last time they spoke, ambiguous endings, extreme haunted houses, William Castle, Matinee (1993), Uncle Morty hosting Mary Versus the Movies, Cecelia Condit, hosting a podcast with your spouse, comparing and despairing, writers who started writing later in life, the Best Show with Tom Scharpling 25th anniversary live shows, Nathan Gelgud, Rodney Norman, Puderschmude, BookTok, Josh debuts his new voice for his dog Waffles, watching Grizzly Man and Star Trek with Waffles, Waffles "expresses" himself, walking your dog vs. putting them in...
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Episode 7 - How Often Are You Drawing Bears? with Dennis Lingg
Empathy at the Apocalypse
Dennis Lingg of the podcast Mary Versus the Movies joins Josh and Andy to talk about Lin-Manuel Miranda's Warriors musical, interviewing Tom Scharpling and calling into the Best Show, Josh confesses he was the one who got Joe Pera added to the Best Show's list of the Most Evil Comedians, Josh talks about meeting Neil Gaiman and Andy Richter, shaving/saving the king, mobile puzzle games, Facebook games, Dennis talks about No Man's Sky, Josh talks about Dropsy, Dennis talks about Rocket League, the guys talk about playing video games against racist youths online, Josh tells his Pitfall II story,...
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Episode 6 - Lizzo, Rizzo, and the Rizzler with Jason Sims
Empathy at the Apocalypse
Jason Sims joins Josh and Andy to talk about the body of Christ, the meaninglessness of podcasting, Dubai chocolate, Jason's social media footprint, the relativity of transcendence, pools, Indiana Jones, clankers, the ubiquity of Marc Maron, Mel Blanc, rabbits, carrots, and Looney Tunes caricatures, Josh and Andy trade impressions of Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson, used book stores, Umberto Eco, Malazan Book of the Fallen, Michael Chabon novels, Michael Faber novels, horror movies, Weapons, drive-in theaters, Josh's dogs, if famous film directors did improv, testing your comedy on strangers,...
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Episode 5 - A Melted Cheese Situation with Mary (Mary Versus the Movies)!
Empathy at the Apocalypse
Mary Jones from Mary Versus the Movies joins Josh and Andy to talk about chainsaw-based bands and homemade instruments, video games, the power of power washing things, Mary's summer, Sesame Street's delightful garbage, Josh's Fourth of July, the British finding Mister Rogers creepy, Mary and Dennis doing their podcast live for their 200th episode, B movies Josh has seen, The Big Picture (1989), porn for cowards, live music, too much news, internet fatigue, TV Guide, movie ads in newspapers, Frankenhooker and the value of trash, carnival coke mirrors, unicorns and Josh's fear of animals,...
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Episode 4 - A Bear Holding A Heart with BINGO!
Empathy at the Apocalypse
Bingo from halfwayokay joins Josh and Andy to talk about Zyn, smoking cigarettes, Gene Rayburn, Paul Lynde, Superman and other superhero movies, Clown in a Cornfield and other horror movies, Bruce news, sitcoms, cartoons, Bariocart, video games, Kool-Aid Man, webcomics of the 2000s, Drabble, Chick tracts, church, The Brutalist, Casey Frankenstein's show, odd internet stunts, TV programs that ended with weird cliffhangers, Bingo's Boppy zine machine, ALF, Steve Martin, M*A*S*H, the new Andy Kaufman documentary, The Simpsons, celebrities going down in flames, Mac and Me, Conan O'Brien, late...
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Episode 3 - Hand Horn
Empathy at the Apocalypse
The boys talk about hair, hand/mouth noises, Bobcat Goldthwait, Bridget Everett, Jerry Seinfeld, AI podcasts, bathroom graffiti, Josh plugs somebody else’s podcast, Andy buys a cat tooth cleaning kit, retro video games and thinky games, Katamari Damacy, interacting with gamers online, media warnings, fantasy book series, Harry Potter, Philip Roth, quitting books, Josh and Andy share the books they got for Christmas but have yet to read, Tim Allen’s prison toilet story, motorcycle gangs, scary claymation, Pentagram, What’s In My Bag?, Matt Berry, folk music, Norma Tanega,...
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Episode 2 - Shucked Laundry
Empathy at the Apocalypse
The boys talk about Josh needing a haircut, teenage dirtbags, The Oh Sees, Geordie Greep, Lodge 49, beer, Josh's furnace, Cosmopolitan Magazine, dogs, Andy's rough Wednesday, argument enders, kid fights, roller skating, Steely Dan, Ginger Baker, Lefty Gunplay, Empathy at the Apocalypse's f'd up "You Might Also Like" algorithm, famous jackals, Bingo and the post office, Bill Burr's podcast, Cameron Winter, The Doors, cryptic song lyrics, The New Pornographers and A.C. Newman, Liz Lawrence, Caroline Polachek, Charli XCX, Chappell Roan, the Best Show, halfwayokay, problematic podcasters,...
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Episode 1 - Do You Ever Get A Pimple In A Strange Place?
Empathy at the Apocalypse
The boys talk about dads, old-timey radio, Sarah Vowell, the show's theme song and origin story, dogs, avocado pie, friends and beverages, sleepover games, pimples, cubicle jobs, sandwiches, pierogies, convenience stores, annoying TV & movie tropes, pizza, retro video games, impressive dancing, regional accents, Anthony Fantano, Lingua Ignota, Idles, Tom Scharpling, Geordie Greep & Black Midi, Geese, Justin Hawkins & The Darkness, Cardiacs, Kirin J. Callinan, John Grant, Seven Second Delay, Built to Spill, CMJ, Dave Matthews Band, Rusted Root, Cheekface, Pacing, and Matan. Thank...
info_outlineThe boys host Mike Lisk (AKA AP Mike from the Best Show with Tom Scharpling)! Josh and Andy start the show talking about their parents' differing reactions to the music they were listening to when they were developing their own tastes (2 Live Crew, Suicidal Tendencies, Sonic Youth, Pearl Jam etc.), The Frogs' discography, Josh's job search, divorce, Marvel movies, seeing films at home vs in the theater, Julia Ducorneau movies, Paul Thomas Anderson movies, liquid movie theater butter, popcorn machines, Flavacol and popcorn popping techniques, Josh is gifted five pounds of bacon, haluski, Andy's back on poultry, bacon grease soup, The Pitt, competency p*rn, How It's Made, pepper spray, tattoos, Andy and Josh discuss their AP Mike phone screening interactions over the years, watching podcasts on YouTube: yay or nay?, gatekeeping Adam Friedland, Stavros Halkias is everywhere and is getting away with everything, Joe Pera's posse is insane, Chaki The Funk Wizard, George 'The Animal' Steele, Pete Holmes, Momus, Mike Doughty of Soul Coughing, the boys thank Sherri Locker for suggesting AP Mike as a guest, and Smash Mouth. The boys take a break and come back with their guest, Mike Lisk (AKA AP Mike)! Mike talks about the ending of his podcast Egg Foo What?!, mortality, and taking care of his father. Josh and Andy ask Mike about his Best Show call screening duties and Mike talks about his experience with the various callers (the good and the bad) over the years. The boys engage Mike in book talk (John O'Brien, John Hawkes, Barry Gifford, Jim Thompson, Brohumil Hrabel), Andy asks Mike about Supercallers from the past, Mike talks about Fredericks and Spike, Mike talks about WBAI: Gary Null and Lynn Samuels, crystal immunity, new age culture, the term woo woo, ambient water, the age at which people start exploring new music, the latest Geese album, Rick Beato, the hunt vs everything, everywhere, all at once culture, PTA movies, Thomas Pynchon novels, Write Conscious, David Foster Wallace, Josh pitches Infinite Brett, Life on Books, Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History by S. C. Gwynne, Cormac McCarthy, Larry Brown, Kevin Smith, Andy asks about Tom's friendship with Paul F. Tompkins, Mike tells the boys a couple bar stories, Josh and Mike bond over "art" movies, including Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975), sports, Mike Francesa and their relationship to the Best Show, and the Gristedes guy is in a Safdie movie.
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