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Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

Release Date: 10/07/2025

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Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

In this episode, I address a topic I’ve been getting more and more questions about: children who present with obsessive or compulsive behaviors that mirror OCD. I explain why I feel OCD is often not an appropriate childhood diagnosis and why these behaviors are best understood as manifestations of unmanageable anxiety combined with perfectionism and an intense need for control. When parents come in focused on eliminating specific behaviors, I walk through why that approach misses the heart of the issue and risks placing an agenda on the child that undermines the therapeutic process. I...

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Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

In this Game Changers episode, I tackle one of the most common objections we hear from adults: “If children aren’t rational or cognitive, how do they learn in school?” I explain why this question reflects an adulthood bias and how academic learning is often misunderstood as evidence of reasoning, logic, and abstract thinking. I break down the critical distinction between conditioned, repetitive learning and true cognitive processing, and why confusing the two leads adults to expect things from children that they simply are not developmentally capable of giving. I also offer a clear,...

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Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

In this episode, I answer two questions that touch on both the clinical and relational demands of child-centered play therapy. First, I address why the average number of CCPT sessions has shifted over time from 20–30 to more commonly 30–40 sessions. I share my perspective on what has changed in children’s lives—screen exposure, loss of free play, increased anxiety, overdiagnosis, and broader cultural shifts—and how these factors affect children’s baseline regulation and their capacity to do therapeutic work. I also explain how to communicate timelines to parents in a way that is...

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Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

In this episode of the CCPT Game Changers series, I take a close look at battery-operated toys in the playroom and why they require much more intentional consideration than we often give them. I explain how toys are selected—not collected—and why simplicity, creativity, and non-prescriptive design are essential for preserving true child-centeredness. Many battery-driven toys introduce noise, music, scripts, or actions that interrupt the child’s flow and subtly direct the play in ways that interfere with the therapeutic process. I walk through how to evaluate whether batteries actually...

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Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

In this episode, I respond to a question about a six-year-old client with a history of early instability who has experienced recurring night terrors. I explain why night terrors are not always trauma-based and how frequency, intensity, and impact on daily functioning matter far more than the behavior itself. I also discuss why periods of regression—especially after significant gains—are developmentally normal and do not indicate a loss of progress or a return to earlier levels of anxiety. I walk through how CCPT supports long-term regulation across environments and why, in this case,...

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366 | CCPT Gamechangers: Why ‘You Wanted Me to Know’ Isn’t Truly Child-Centered show art 366 | CCPT Gamechangers: Why ‘You Wanted Me to Know’ Isn’t Truly Child-Centered

Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

In this episode of the CCPT Game Changers series, I take a close look at a group of phrases I hear frequently in play sessions, such as “You wanted me to know…”, “You wanted to tell me…”, or “You wanted to show me…”. While these statements may seem harmless, I explain how they subtly shift the focus away from the child and toward the therapist, which undermines true child-centeredness. Even small language choices matter when our goal is for the child to feel fully seen, heard, and understood. I break down why simply tracking behavior, reflecting content, and reflecting...

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Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

In this episode, I answer a thoughtful question about working with tweens and teens—particularly neurodivergent clients—and whether it’s ever appropriate to “check in” verbally about things like school. I explain why, even with older children and adolescents, directly asking questions introduces an agenda, pulls the child into their head, and shifts us out of true child-centeredness. While play may look more activity-based and repetitive at this developmental stage, the core principles of CCPT remain exactly the same. I also discuss why repetitive, competence-based play is both...

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Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

In this Game Changers episode, I address one of the most stressful moments for play therapists: children who dart out of the playroom. I explain why “runners” are not a failure of the model and why a child leaving the room is sometimes developmentally, emotionally, or practically driven—not always resistance or defiance. Before jumping to limits, I emphasize the importance of understanding the why behind the behavior and responding thoughtfully rather than reactively. I also walk through concrete, practical strategies to increase safety and containment without trapping the child or...

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Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

In this episode, I respond to Elliott’s question about children who strongly resist play therapy from the very beginning and parents who eventually give up and terminate early. I explain why early resistance is not a red flag for CCPT failure, but often a clear indicator of high anxiety, a deep need for control, and a child who desperately needs the therapeutic process. The real issue isn’t the child’s resistance—it’s whether parents were fully prepared for it before therapy ever began. I walk through how to front-load expectations during the initial parent consultation by explaining...

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362 | CCPT Gamechangers: Why Overanalyzing the Play Becomes a Therapist Trap (Symbolic Play & Themes) show art 362 | CCPT Gamechangers: Why Overanalyzing the Play Becomes a Therapist Trap (Symbolic Play & Themes)

Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

In this Game Changers episode, I address a pattern I’ve been seeing everywhere: therapists becoming overly focused on identifying, interpreting, and assigning meaning to themes and symbolic play. I explain why this pulls us out of attunement, distracts us from the child, and risks turning CCPT into an interpretive exercise rather than a relational, child-centered process. Themes can absolutely be useful—but only in the context of parent consultations. In the playroom, our job is presence, attunement, and skill execution, not analysis. I also offer a strong caution against “making...

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In this final episode of the Art of the Session series, I walk through a full recap of everything we’ve covered over the past 16 episodes. This has been one of the most in-depth series I’ve ever done, and it’s all about grounding ourselves in the foundational structure of CCPT sessions — from how we set up our playrooms, to how we greet children and parents, to how we execute the core responses and maintain a child-led presence throughout.

My hope is that this episode brings it all together in a simple, clear framework that supports your confidence and adherence to the model. While CCPT is not always easy to execute, it is simple — and when you internalize the pillars, the reflective responses, and the essential mindset of being rather than doing, it becomes second nature. Thank you for walking through this series with me. I’m so grateful for your commitment to the model, and the kids you serve.

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Common References:
Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.