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Season Four, Episode Nine: Action, Lessons, and Hope

White People Work

Release Date: 03/24/2025

Season Four, Episode Ten:  Fulfilled Predictions and Standing on the Front Lines. show art Season Four, Episode Ten: Fulfilled Predictions and Standing on the Front Lines.

White People Work

In this final episode of season four, Scott ties together the threads of the fourth season, looking back at some of the uncanny conversations that have played themselves out in real-time in the US. Scott wraps up this season of examining the US political landscape through the tenets of whiteness by offering one last idea, one invitation for personal reflection, and one last proposal to motivate us to move forward in taking steps of action for racial justice.  Scott is also offering a live zoom Monday, April 7, 2025 at 7 pm pacific/10 pm eastern at Scott can be reached at and all that he...

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Season Four, Episode Nine:  Action, Lessons, and Hope show art Season Four, Episode Nine: Action, Lessons, and Hope

White People Work

In this episode, Scott steps away from the historical journey to put his feet on the ground and find sustainable hope. He shares about his steps of active engagement, lessons he learns along the way, and encouragement that he is finding to balance out some of the challenging realities of the daily news cycle. See the youtube video of how small steps of resistance can change the world through the lens of dominoes and physics:    Learn about a SURJ chapter near you:    Read more about the Freedom Riders:   

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Season Four, Episode Eight: Economic and Political Parallels Between 1900 and Today show art Season Four, Episode Eight: Economic and Political Parallels Between 1900 and Today

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In this episode Scott completes the three-week tour through the history of the turn of the century, and brings together how the threads of science, immigration, and economics parallel the current state of the US. Scott tracks the way that mounting tension and disparity between labor and employers came to a head during and after World War One, and makes the case for this season as the starting point of colorblind racism.  For any interested in reading along with Scott's primary source material, get a copy of The History of White People by retired Princeton history professor Dr. Nell...

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Season Four, Episode Seven: Paralleling Immigration Between 1900 and Today show art Season Four, Episode Seven: Paralleling Immigration Between 1900 and Today

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In this episode Scott continues his look at the turn of the century, and how it parallels today. This is the second installation of this comparison, and traces the theme of immigration from the late 1800's through the early 1920's. Scott builds upon how the scientific ideas of eugenics and determinative heredity informed assessments and social views of the newer wave of Eastern and Southern European immigrants--the same who were entering the US when Emma Lazarus's poem was placed beneath the Statue of Liberty inviting the world to "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to...

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Season Four, Episode Six: What Does the Turn of the 19th to 20th Century Have to Teach Us? show art Season Four, Episode Six: What Does the Turn of the 19th to 20th Century Have to Teach Us?

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In this episode, Scott goes back into history mode, leaning heavily on the amazing work of Princeton historian Dr. Nell Irvin Painter in looking at what the turn of the 19th to 20th century in the US has to teach us about what we're in the midst of today. Tariffs, immigration, deportations, oligarchs, and the resurgence of white supremacist groups are just a few of the parallel issues of today and this period in time. Come with us into the three-week series of leaning on history to catch the scents of the present, so that we can have a sense of what to watch out for and where it might (again)...

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Season Four, Episode Five:  Scott's Attempts to Transcend His Own Humanity in this Stressful Political Climate. show art Season Four, Episode Five: Scott's Attempts to Transcend His Own Humanity in this Stressful Political Climate.

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In this episode, Scott shares in a very live way the ways that he has had a recent revelation that he's been attempting to transcend his humanity in the way he's carried his own emotions and concerns with all that happening in the US political sphere in the present. Scott shares vulnerably about his own arrogant assumptions about soldiering on as a good white person in these dynamic times, and about the freedom he's gaining from finding places to name and discuss his feelings, and to find community and mentoring for healthy sustainable engagement. Scott includes the helpfulness of learning...

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Season Four, Episode Four: White Ethnic Homecoming and the Hypothesis of a Place Wound with Chris Centracchio. show art Season Four, Episode Four: White Ethnic Homecoming and the Hypothesis of a Place Wound with Chris Centracchio.

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Scott interviews friend and co-founder of Italian Homecoming, Chris Centracchio, discussing the story of Chris's experience of being received by his long-lost Italian relatives, and the felt need it brings to the surface for many white European Americans. Chris shares his story of growing up as an Italian American in Rhode Island, the complexities of his grandmother's relationship with her Italian heritage, and the how the longing he always had as a child was fulfilled in the Napoli region of Italy. In responding to the story, Scott and Chris process the concept of a place wound as something...

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Season Four, Episode Three: DEI Has Never Threatened Me. show art Season Four, Episode Three: DEI Has Never Threatened Me.

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In this episode Scott shares his experience of diversity, equity, and inclusion, how they have never threatened him, and why the stated narratives of DEI being dismantled in favor of merit don't hold up under scrutiny. Additionally, Scott covers the opposition to critical race theory and honest about US history, and offers tools for naming, dissecting, and evaluating narratives about reality that we carry in order to help us who are white see what is shaping us and step into agency in becoming the kinds of people we want to be. 

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Season Four, Episode Two: Dr. Corey Clay's Perspective on Race in US Politics show art Season Four, Episode Two: Dr. Corey Clay's Perspective on Race in US Politics

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Scott interviews Dr. Corey Clay, a PhD in industrial/organizational psychology, and recent director of diversity and inclusion for the School of Mechanical Engineering at the University of Washington. Dr. Clay shares his unique life journey--from Texas to the military to corrections to academia--and how it has led him to be passionate about advocating for the rights of African Americans and marginalized communities. Scott and Dr. Clay talk about today's political climate through the lens of race, and land at the reasons that Dr. Clay and his wife have decided to leave the United States. Dr....

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Season Four, Episode One: Words, Actions, and Politics. show art Season Four, Episode One: Words, Actions, and Politics.

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This episode kicks off the start of season four with Scott sharing about the interesting relationship between words and actions as a set up for the season. He introduces the theme of the season, which will observe current political rhetoric, values, and decision-making through the lens of whiteness. Scott starts the observation by discussing the inauguration day declaration that Denali and the Gulf of Mexico will be renamed.

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In this episode, Scott steps away from the historical journey to put his feet on the ground and find sustainable hope. He shares about his steps of active engagement, lessons he learns along the way, and encouragement that he is finding to balance out some of the challenging realities of the daily news cycle.

See the youtube video of how small steps of resistance can change the world through the lens of dominoes and physics:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JCm5FY-dEY 

Learn about a SURJ chapter near you:  https://surj.org/ 

Read more about the Freedom Riders:  https://www.google.com/books/edition/Freedom_Riders/ftHQCwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover