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Mark Crotty, MLA

Oxygen for Educators

Release Date: 03/14/2025

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****Mark mentioned that although he hasn't done public writing since leaving his job in Dallas in 2019, his blog with old posts is still available at To Keep Things Whole. (https://tokeepthingswhole.blogspot.com/)

He has recently posted on LinkedIn and is considering starting a SubStack, thanks to Michelle's encouragement!

MARK CROTTY LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/in/markjcrotty/

NWAIS:  https://nwais.org/page/who_to_contact 

SUMMARY 

In this profoundly insightful episode, hosts Chris Phelps and Michelle Kinder introduce a deeply engaging interview with guest Mark Crotty, a renowned deep thinker in the field of education. They explore the multifaceted world of education, discussing the critical role of community and the necessity of resilience amidst current challenges. The conversation highlights how educators can discover their purpose, the profound impact of stress on teachers, and the importance of deep listening and connection.

The discussion underscores the urgent need for change in educational frameworks and the redefinition of success to better serve students and communities. It examines the evolving landscape of education, emphasizing values-driven leadership, the role of hope and opportunity, and the essential nature of community and connection in fostering resilience.

Mark Crotty shares his deep insights on the pivotal role of educators in shaping students' purpose and the significance of incremental changes in teaching methods. He addresses the risks associated with inaction and the importance of understanding one's values to navigate challenges effectively. Using the metaphor of the cup and saucer, Michelle illustrates the need for co-regulation in personal and professional relationships, highlighting the importance of community support in education.

 

TAKEAWAYS

  • The better you know who you are, the higher your tolerance for risk.
  • Community is essential for educators to feel supported and understood.
  • Education should focus on shaping individuals, not just academics.
  • People are experiencing significant stress and burnout in education.
  • Deep listening can create a sense of safety and connection.
  • Community care is more important than self-care in times of crisis.
  • Redefining success in education is crucial for meaningful change.
  • Education must evolve to meet the demands of the current climate.
  • Imagining a new educational framework can inspire change.
  • The inner work of educators is vital for creating a positive impact. Incremental changes in teaching can lead to significant impacts.
  • Thought experiments in education help maintain hope and readiness for opportunities.
  • Values-driven leadership is essential for making tough decisions.
  • Understanding one's values increases resilience and risk tolerance.
  • There is a cost to inaction in the face of challenges.
  • Education should focus on helping students find their purpose.
  • Community and connection are vital for educators' well-being.
  • The internal conflict of inaction can be more damaging than external risks.
  • Empowering students to make choices fosters responsibility and growth.
  • Deep listening and co-regulation are crucial for personal and professional support.

 

CHAPTERS

00:00Grounding in Values and Resilience
06:07Finding Purpose in Education
11:49Deep Listening and Connection
18:00Redefining Educational Success
23:59The Future of Education
29:57Imagining a New Educational Framework
37:16The Power of Incremental Change
38:13Hope and Opportunity in Education
39:29Values-Driven Leadership
40:52Risk and Resilience in Decision Making
43:30Understanding Your Values
44:42The Cost of Inaction
45:18The Role of Educators in Shaping Purpose
46:47The Educators Collaborative: A New Chapter
48:35Messages for Future Generations
49:42Community and Connection
50:37The Importance of Purpose in Education
52:12Evolving Education for Meaning and Purpose
54:30The Collective Responsibility of Educators
56:01Shifting Perspectives on Us vs. Them
58:31Empowering Students Through Choice
01:00:45Navigating Life with Values
01:02:12The Role of Community in Resilience
01:04:21The Internal vs. External Risks of Inaction
01:06:35Unapologetic Alignment with Values
01:08:42The Importance of Deep Listening
01:10:19The Cup and Saucer Metaphor
01:12:07The Lifelong Need for Co-Regulation
01:15:10The Impact of Community on Well-Being