210: Aging in Place, Part 2: How JoeyCo Home Sharing Actually Works
Release Date: 08/18/2026
210: Aging in Place, Part 2: How JoeyCo Home Sharing Actually Works
Absolute Trust Talk
Once a student is living in your spare room and working for your household, the questions get practical fast. Can they have a friend over? What did the screening actually check? And if it stops working, how does it end? In Part 2 of her conversation with JoeyCo founder Alison Donnally, host Kirsten Howe asks all of them — and gets straight answers, including who tends to apply for these arrangements and, just as usefully, who doesn't. Every JoeyCo match rests on two agreements that reference each other — a lodging agreement and a household employment agreement — and Alison explains why,...
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209: Aging in Place: How JoeyCo Matches Older Adults with Student Housemates
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What if the answer to aging well at home isn't an expensive caregiver --- but a college student in the spare bedroom? In this episode, host Kirsten Howe sits down with Alison Donnally, founder of JoeyCo and a healthcare innovation veteran of Amazon Care and Kaiser Permanente. After three of her own family members experienced major health events while aging alone, Alison asked a question that wouldn't let go: if the au pair system gives American families relatively affordable live-in childcare, why isn't there an equivalent for older adults? Her answer is JoeyCo, which matches older adult...
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208: Downsizing on Your Terms, Part 2: Buy First, Sell Later
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In Part 1, host Kirsten Howe and real estate agent Nathan Jines of Jines Real Estate Group talked about why more people 55 and up are choosing to relocate --- and how to make that choice on your own terms. Now, in Part 2, they get into the how. Nathan's first piece of advice flips conventional wisdom on its head: if you're financially able, buy your next home first, start living your new life, and let a full-service team handle the sale behind you --- decluttering, staging, repairs, negotiations, all of it, even from across the country. He shares how bridge lenders make buying first possible,...
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207: Downsizing on Your Terms: Moving After 55
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When most of us picture an older adult moving out of a long-time home, we imagine a crisis — declining health, a loss of independence, a move someone else decided was necessary. This episode is about the opposite. Host Kirsten Howe welcomes back real estate agent Nathan Jines of Jines Real Estate Group to talk about homeowners 55 and up who are choosing to relocate — not because they have to, but because they want to. Nathan explains why this is his favorite group to work with, and why the most important question isn’t “where should I go?” but “what do I want this next phase of my...
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206: Estate Planning Misses: The Mess You Leave Behind
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In this episode of Absolute Trust Talk, managing attorney Kirsten Howe shares an estate planning miss that has nothing to do with your documents — the literal, physical mess we tend to leave behind. Drawing on years of trust administration experience, Kirsten explains what really happens when one child is named trustee and inherits the job of emptying a home filled with decades of belongings: stalled home sales, frustrated siblings, and inheritances delayed by months. She also shares the story of a daughter trustee who nearly hauled a box of "trash" to the dumpster, only to find $2,500 in...
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205: Estate Planning Misses: How to Document a Loan or Gift to Your Child
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In this episode of Absolute Trust Talk, managing attorney Kirsten Howe tackles a quietly common source of family conflict: parents giving money to their adult children without documenting whether it's a gift or a loan. Drawing on years of trust administration experience, Kirsten shares a real family story where canceled checks sparked a bitter dispute among siblings after their parents passed, and she walks through the simple documentation steps that could have prevented it. She also addresses a second pitfall most families overlook: when a loan is properly documented up front but the...
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204: Estate Planning Misses: Addressing Separate Property in a Joint Trust
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In this episode of Absolute Trust Talk, managing attorney Kirsten Howe tackles one of the most common — and commonly overlooked — estate planning scenarios: what happens when one spouse inherits money, assets, or real estate after a joint trust is already in place. Kirsten breaks down the difference between separate and community property in California, explains why adding inherited assets to a joint trust doesn’t change their character but does affect who controls them, and walks through the two practical solutions her firm recommends. She also reveals a lesser-known complication: that...
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203: Estate Planning Misses: How to Make Cash Available Immediately After Death
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In this episode of Absolute Trust Talk, managing attorney Kirsten Howe tackles one of the most overlooked practical challenges in estate planning: making sure your loved ones have access to cash immediately after you die. Kirsten walks through why the most common account structures — trust-held accounts, individually owned accounts, and pay-on-death designations — all come with delays that can leave families unable to cover urgent expenses, such as funeral and burial costs. She then breaks down the one strategy that actually works, adding a trusted co-owner to a small joint checking...
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202: Estate Planning Misses: The Timeshare Problem No One Talks About
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That timeshare you've been putting off dealing with? It could become a probate headache for your family. In this episode of Absolute Trust Talk, managing attorney Kirsten Howe breaks down the two types of timeshares — traditional deeded ownership and modern points-based systems — and explains why both need to be addressed in your estate plan. She walks through what's involved in transferring a timeshare to your revocable living trust, why it matters to act while you're alive, and what really happens when a timeshare is left unaddressed after someone dies — including the possibility...
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201: Estate Planning Misses: What Happens When Your Custodial or 529 Account Has No Successor
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In this episode of Absolute Trust Talk, managing attorney Kirsten Howe continues her estate planning misses mini-series by tackling custodial accounts and 529 education plans. While these accounts are incredibly popular for saving for children, most people don't realize a critical legal distinction: you don't actually own them. This misconception leads to a costly problem when account owners die without proper succession planning. Kirsten shares real cases from her practice where families ended up in probate court—spending thousands of dollars in legal fees just to access money intended for...
info_outlineOnce a student is living in your spare room and working for your household, the questions get practical fast. Can they have a friend over? What did the screening actually check? And if it stops working, how does it end? In Part 2 of her conversation with JoeyCo founder Alison Donnally, host Kirsten Howe asks all of them — and gets straight answers, including who tends to apply for these arrangements and, just as usefully, who doesn't.
Every JoeyCo match rests on two agreements that reference each other — a lodging agreement and a household employment agreement — and Alison explains why, in California, housing offered because of the job puts a homeowner on firmer ground than a standard tenancy would, pointing to case law built around live-in building superintendents as the model. It's a practical look at what this arrangement asks of a household, and what it gives back.
Time-stamped Show Notes:
0:00 Introduction
1:00 Who becomes a Joey? First-generation students, former family caregivers, future nurses, and business students who’ve run the numbers.
1:52 Kirsten asks the question every host wonders about: what happens when it just has to end?
2:11 Most endings aren’t dramatic — different directions, changing needs, and an amicable way out.
2:26 A core JoeyCo principle: “We’re not just moving someone in and saying good luck.”
2:40 Did you know? The lodging and employment agreements self-reference — and in California, that changes a host’s footing.
3:00 The live-in superintendent model: the apartment is available only because that person performs a role in the building.
3:27 What a real move-out looks like — turn in the keys, leave the space in good shape, move on.
4:04 “These are not squatters.” The interviews, references, and background checks behind every placement.
4:45 Do hosts and Joeys share meals? Some hosts simply want to cook for somebody again.
5:24 The kitchen table comes back — the Chronicle-profiled household now debates big national questions over dinner.
6:38 Does a Joey have to be a college student? Why having a school in the picture helps.
7:20 JoeyCo defines “student” broadly — and just placed its first educator, a kindergarten teacher.
7:50 What happens when a Joey graduates? One May grad is making the case for recent graduates.
8:45 A match no one could have planned: a student studying PTSD, placed with a family facing dementia.
10:43 How to get started at withjoey.com — real people behind every form, and a home visit for every match.
11:40 Why JoeyCo is focused on all of California for now, and what growing thoughtfully looks like.
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