#163 Being confidently lost and finding joy in the chaos with Gavin Oattes
Release Date: 10/30/2025
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info_outline“If you look for them, glimmers, these little micro moments of joy, are everywhere.”
What if being lost isn’t a problem to fix, but a path to joy and self-discovery? In this episode, I speak with Gavin Oattes author, speaker, creativity advocate, and former stand-up comedian for a conversation about closing doors, moving forward, and how letting go can be the bravest thing you do.
Gavin shares his journey from a whirlwind comedy career (with stories of sold-out shows, almost-making-it, and friendship tensions) to running a business, writing uplifting books, and learning how to navigate seismic life changes.
If you’ve ever faced a breakup (romantic, platonic, or creative), wondered what glimmers of joy might be hiding in the chaos, or just need reassurance that being “confidently lost” is a great place to start, this episode is essential listening.
The Highlights:
03:40 Gavin’s closing door: Saying goodbye to stand-up comedy and creative partnerships
07:33 Friendship breakups and why endings aren’t always “bad”
13:29 Knowing when to let go even if your heart’s still in it
17:26 How to honour the magic rather than mourn what-might-have-been
19:12 Family change, shifting priorities, growing through life’s phases
21:17 Getting “ghosted” and learning to move on
23:33 Gavin’s new chapter: Writing as a way out of chaos
30:29 Glimmers—a practice for finding joy when you’re lost
35:18 Reverse goal-setting & why the next “shiny thing” won’t always make you happy
39:53 Writing for yourself (and letting go of the outcome)
What helped Gavin navigate change:
Soundtrack:
Dookie by Green Day
Book:
Tuesdays with Morrie by Mitch Albom
One piece of advice:
“You are not everyone else. We’re each an experiment of one, and accepting that is truly door-opening.”
About Gavin Oattes:
Gavin Oattes owns Tree of Knowledge, one of the UK’s most exciting people development organisations. Working with some of the largest organisations in the world, Gavin is now regarded as one the most talented and sought after speakers, regularly delivering keynote speeches at conferences and exhibitions around the world. An award winning comedian and best-selling author, his inspiration all comes from where he began his career….Primary School Teaching.
https://www.gavinoattes.com/
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