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Release Date: 09/18/2025
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info_outlineHost Alyson Stanfield talks with Katie Hunt about the findings from her 2025 State of the Product Industry survey.
While Katie’s audience includes product-based artists and makers, many of the themes—pricing pressures, burnout, and the need for stronger systems—apply across the creative sector.
They explore what’s really happening behind the scenes of creative businesses right now: why some are thriving while others are closing or stalling, how tariffs are complicating planning and profitability, and the surprising number of businesses still not using email marketing.
Katie and Alyson reflect on the connection between sustainability and simplification, and how support, community, and structure can make all the difference.
03:50 Who was surveyed and what kinds of businesses they run
09:00 How hiring and systems correlate with reduced hours and greater sustainability
11:30 Why email marketing is still underused—and still effective
15:30 The mindset blocks around unsubscribes and “bothering” your list
17:40 Social media as a visibility tool vs. a sales driver
18:30 Why community, mentorship, and education accelerate growth
21:00 Emotional tone of the industry: cautiously hopeful, but tired
24:20 Following up and closing the loop when no one responds
26:40 30% of respondents have considered closing their business
30:00 Tariffs, planning challenges, and the ripple effect on pricing
34:20 What separates those who sustain their business from those who burn out
38:00 The role of peer support and accountability
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