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Episode 103: Joanne Gordon

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Release Date: 01/13/2026

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This episode originally aired Oct 10, 2023. “Sometimes I’m asked if I’ll ever write a book,” notes actor, playwright and singer-songwriter Jeff Daniels, “and I always answer that I already have. It’s in my songs.” This is true. But now it’s also true that the stuff of Jeff Daniels’s life is on delightful display in the Audible Originals memoir “”—a collection of stories, musings and songs that invites listeners into the heart and mindset of one of our most versatile performers, offered with grace and good cheer and midwestern soul.  Daniels, the two-time Emmy...

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Join us as As Told To podcast guest reads a passage from his first novel, , just published by the indie press Koehler Books.   Grace, a veteran ad agency executive and acclaimed winemaker, turns his creative talents to an entirely new form of expression with the publication of his first-novel, a modern-day retelling of “the greatest story ever told.”   If you’re intrigued by Daniel’s reading, we hope you’ll double back and , in which our guest reflects on the very many ways his very many creative pursuits—as an ad man, vintner, and novelist—have become...

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“There is no crime to fit this sentence; there is no sentence to fit this crime.” The words of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate echo across the centuries in Daniel Grace’s first novel , a daring retelling of “the greatest story ever told.” As the specter of Pilate collides with a modern-day incarnation of Judas Iscariot in the shadows of a New York City basement, a profound religious mystery unfolds in a dark and dazzling literary thriller. The book is a bit of a departure for Daniel Grace, the London-born, California-bred former owner of an internationally-acclaimed advertising...

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reads his favorite passage from the baseball memoir he helped to write with the late, great Dave Parker—a seven-time All-Star, a two-time batting champion, a three-time Gold Glove winner, a two-time World Series champion, and the 1978 National League MVP. In , the writer and filmmaker lends his collaborative storytelling skills to one of the greatest ballplayers of his generation, known to fans and teammates as “Cobra.” Parker was inducted into Major League Baseball’s Hall of Fame just weeks after his death in June, 2025, following a decade-long struggle with...

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“We ain’t doin’ none of this Tuesdays with Morrie shit,” baseball great Dave Parker once told his collaborator Dave Jordan, as they worked together on the soon-to-be-Hall-of-Famer’s memoir. “We goin’ out poetic and wild.” As Told To podcast guest Dave Jordan is a writer and filmmaker and founder of Instream Sports, a pioneering athlete-author writing platform. He is the co-author of the acclaimed memoir , with the late Dave Parker, who was inducted into Major League Baseball’s Hall of Fame just weeks after his death in June 2025, following a decade-long struggle with...

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Upon publication, acclaimed chef and restaurateur Beejhy Barhany’s  was hailed by The New York Times as “a work of extraordinary scope and ambition.” In the hands of , the award-winning book collaborator and food writer, her story leaps off the page and invites readers to taste the full flavor of a life purposefully lived, as well as the full flavors on offer at Beejhy Barhany’s Tsion Café in Harlem. Join us as Elisa Ung shares an excerpt from her collaboration with the celebrated chef. Please support the sponsors who support our show: Daniel Paisner's Daniel...

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Best-selling ghostwriter Elisa Ung credits her lifelong love of musicals with gifting her the tools she relies on in her collaborative work. “They’ve taught me to listen for rhythms and cadences in authors’ voices,” she writes. “They help me understand how to respect readers by telling the most powerful story in the least amount of time.” Elisa’s path to this type of storytelling might seem familiar to As Told To listeners, but she has walked it with a song in her heart… and an appetite for the stories we share at the family table, and in our family kitchens. A former news...

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“Sometimes my memories feel like a dream,” writes Brandy, the Grammy Award-winning singer, songwriter, producer, and actress, in collaboration with New York Times best-selling author and . In this “Between the Lines” episode, we revisit a passage from Brandy’s just-published memoir , in which she reflects on the inspiration for her title. As you listen, consider what it takes for an accomplished journalist to help give singular voice to such a singular voice, while working to stitch a lifetime of dream-like memories into a compelling narrative. Please support the sponsors who...

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“You're a co-pilot, you are a therapist, you are an archivist,” reflects journalist and cultural critic Gerrick Kennedy of his role as a ghostwriter. Kennedy is the co-author of the just-published memoir , from singer, songwriter and actress Brandy—an immediate #1 New York Times best-seller. He is the author of two previous books, and his work has appeared in a variety of publications, including Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, GQ, Men’s Health, Spin, and Playboy. A former staff writer for The Los Angeles Times, where he covered pop music and culture, Kennedy was honored in 2012 with an...

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In this “Between the Lines” episode, we look back at Harvey Araton’s 2011 classic . In any other NBA post-season, Harvey’s latest book, , a soccer novel for young adults about a seventh-grader who discovers the power of the beautiful game to hurt and to heal, would be spotlighted here. But as the 2025-26 Knicks continue to fight for an NBA championship, we turn our attention to Harvey’s thrilling reflection on the franchise’s championship teams from the early 1970s. As many basketball fans know, When the Garden Was Eden was later adapted for an ESPN “30 for 30” documentary,...

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"It's off the record until it's on the page."

That’s a line from our As Told To podcast conversation with award-winning author/ghostwriter Joanne Gordon, reflecting on the level of trust that exists between author and subject in a successful book collaboration.

A former staff writer and contributing editor at Forbes, where she wrote about management, career, and workplace issues, Joanne is the author of more than a dozen books, with a focus on helping business and thought leaders elevate their voices and share their stories. She is the co-author, most recently, of Bag Man: The Story Behind the Improbable Rise of Coach, written with former Coach CEO Lew Frankfort—“an illuminating behind-the-scenes look at a global brand’s success,” according to Publishers Weekly.

Joanne has also helped to write books for Ginni Rometty, the former Chairman and CEO of IBM, and Howard Schultz, the founding Chairman and CEO of Starbucks. Her first collaboration, Roadtrip Nation: A Guide to Discovering Your Path in Life, written with Mike Mariner and Nathan Gebhard, grew out of an assignment for Forbes and became the basis for a film documentary and a PBS series.

Her own book, Be Happy at Work: 100 Women Who Love Their Jobs and Why, explores how women pursue fulfilling careers.

In 2024, Joanne was named by The Information as a “Top Five” ghostwriter of business books and was honored by Gotham Ghostwriters and the American Society of Journalists and Authors with an Andy Award for “Best Business and Thought Leadership Collaboration.” for her work on the Rometty memoir, Good Power.

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