Aaron Palermo: Cyber Security and Systems Engineering with AI-Driven Development - Episode 372
Release Date: 10/20/2025
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info_outlineAaron Palermo is a Senior Solutions Architect, DevOps engineer, and all-around cybersecurity expert. He works for a global cybersecurity services company, Appgate. Aaron was last on the show in episode 196, sharing about Zero Trust Networking.
Topics of Discussion:
[3:20] Aaron shares his excitement for learning new things and solving innovative challenges, which keep him engaged in the field.
[3:30] Aaron explains his current role at Appgate, a zero-trust network access company.
[4:25] The importance of direct-routed solutions for federal customers who want to own and manage their infrastructure.
[6:27] Aaron recounts how he applied insights from previous ADP guests Scott Hunter, Burke Holland, and Greg Leonardo.
[7:56] He explains the process of querying the Appgate API with natural language and the insights gained from the AI agent’s code generation.
[8:24] Testing an Integration in the Lab.
[11:05] Jeffrey and Aaron discuss the benefits of using open-source tools and the flexibility of Proxmox for network testing.
[14:47] VS Code and Copilot Integration, and what’s next.
[19:39] Aaron introduces n8n.io as a low or no-code automation platform that integrates with AI agents and APIs for workflow orchestration.
[21:15] Integrating simple automation examples, such as weather-based watering systems and data-driven decisions without sensors.
[28:09] OpenWRT’s flexibility and customization.
[30:01] What are some of the scenarios where a software-defined network might be the right tool?
[33:26] Know what you want, and write from a purpose.
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