EP 40: Why High Performers Burn Out: The Hidden Drivers Behind Pressure, Identity Loss, and Sustainable Success with Duey Freeman
The Vitality Collective Podcast w/Dr. Jeremy Bettle
Release Date: 10/01/2025
The Vitality Collective Podcast w/Dr. Jeremy Bettle
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In this powerful episode of The Vitality Collective Podcast, Dr. Jeremy Bettle is joined by renowned therapist and educator Duey Freeman for a deep exploration into how early relational experiences shape the way we perform, relate, and lead. Speaking directly to high performers—whether in sport, business, or life—Duey breaks down why unresolved emotional patterns often drive our relentless pursuit of success, and how healing those patterns can unlock sustainable excellence, deeper self-worth, and meaningful relationships. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone who’s hit the top—and still felt empty.
👤 Guest Bio:
Duey is a sought-after teacher, trainer, licensed therapist, and equine professional worldwide.
He has taught internationally and developed a practical attachment theory and human development model taught to thousands of university students.
He has nearly 80,000 direct client hours and co-founded the Gestalt Equine Institute and the Gestalt Institute of the Rockies.
He supervises therapists and graduate students and does business and land consultations for new equine therapy sites.
Duey embodies both tenderness and strength in all his relations and work. His quality of contact and relationship with others is authentic and unique. People come from around the world to study with him.
Duey is a true elder and mentor exploring new horizons in facilitating men’s growth work. Gestalt and Relational Horsemanship are not just approaches to Duey; they are how he walks through the world.
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Gestalt Equine Institute of the Rockies - http://www.gestaltequineinstitute.com/
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Instagram: @DueyFreeman
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Facebook: @DueyFreeman
âś… Three Actionable Takeaways:
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Separate personhood from behavior and results — Anchor your worth in who you are, not in the outcomes you produce or how others react. When you remember that your value is not tied to performance, you create freedom to grow, take risks, and recover without shame.
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Heal relational injuries in relationship with others — Seek a therapist, mentor, coach, or trusted group because we do not heal alone. Healing happens in safe, supportive connections, and giving yourself permission to be witnessed and cared for is a powerful step toward wholeness.
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Learn and use breath and healthy emotional expression — Be conscious of how you breathe and pair it with the safe expression of emotion to regulate your state under stress. Your breath and your voice can become tools that bring calm, restore balance, and remind you that you have agency even in the hardest moments.
đź§ Key Takeaways:
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High performers often attach their self-worth to achievement, creating a cycle of burnout and dissatisfaction.
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Early attachment experiences—and how we felt supported or unseen—often shape our adult performance behavior.
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Sustainable success comes from internal grounding, not external validation.
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Without emotional integration, success can feel hollow—even at the top.
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Many high performers experience a loss of identity after transitioning out of sport or high-level careers.
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Nervous system states (fight, flight, freeze) impact how we perform under pressure. Awareness of those states is critical.
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Real confidence is consistency across contexts—not wearing different “hats” for different people.
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Grieving what we didn’t receive in childhood opens the door to deeper relationships and self-trust.
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Emotional wholeness allows performance to be an expression—not a performance for validation.
- Therapy, mentorship, or conscious relational work is not optional—it’s necessary for high performers who want to thrive.