loader from loading.io

329. What Clients See That Agencies Miss, with Armando Turco

The Innovative Agency

Release Date: 12/31/2025

346. The Modern Agency Content Playbook, with Roger Nairn show art 346. The Modern Agency Content Playbook, with Roger Nairn

The Innovative Agency

On this episode of The Innovative Agency Podcast, Sharon Toerek welcomes Roger Nairn, co-founder of JAR Podcast Solutions, to reveal why long-form content has become one of the most powerful tools for building trust, authority, and meaningful engagement in a fragmented digital landscape. Roger challenges the notion that shorter is always better and makes a compelling case for depth, authenticity, and consistency as the true drivers of connection. He details what separates forgettable content from shows that genuinely move the needle, how agencies can transform underperforming podcasts into...

info_outline
345. Win the Post-Click Advantage, with Shamir Duverseau show art 345. Win the Post-Click Advantage, with Shamir Duverseau

The Innovative Agency

If your agency is still measuring success by clicks alone, you may be missing where the real opportunity begins.  On this episode of The Innovative Agency Podcast, Sharon Toerek chats with Shamir Duverseau, Managing Director of Smart Panda Labs, to explore what happens after the click… when a prospect lands, evaluates, and decides whether to trust you or to leave. It’s a stage many agencies overlook, yet it’s where revenue is either won or quietly lost. Shamir challenges the traditional, linear view of the customer journey and makes a compelling case for why the “post-click...

info_outline
344. Where Creativity Meets ROI, with Greg Beauchamp show art 344. Where Creativity Meets ROI, with Greg Beauchamp

The Innovative Agency

On this episode of The Innovative Agency Podcast, Sharon Toerek sits down with Greg Beauchamp, Founder of Bindery, for a thoughtful exploration of what it really means to build a modern creative agency. Greg has crafted a unique model,one that intentionally blurs the lines between original filmmaking and branded content. He’s navigating how to honor creative ambition while still delivering consistent commercial results. Greg details the evolving role of creativity in today’s agency landscape, from building emotionally resonant work for clients to investing in original intellectual property...

info_outline
343. Designing Experiences That Stick, with Derek Gwaltney show art 343. Designing Experiences That Stick, with Derek Gwaltney

The Innovative Agency

On this episode of The Innovative Agency Podcast Sharon Toerek welcomes Derek Gwaltney, CEO and Founder of Atlas Experiences, for a conversation about what it really takes to build lasting connections in a world dominated by digital noise. Derek shares his journey from the lottery industry into experiential marketing, and how that path shaped his perspective on engagement, loyalty, and trust. Derek shares why immersive experiences, when done right, go far beyond one-and-done excitement, and instead become powerful drivers of brand affinity and long-term relationships. He details how agencies...

info_outline
342. The New Playbook for Indie Agencies, with Doug Zanger show art 342. The New Playbook for Indie Agencies, with Doug Zanger

The Innovative Agency

This episode of The Innovative Agency Podcast welcomes Doug Zanger of Indie Agency News, to discuss what it really takes for an independent agency to stay competitive and relevant in a market that’s shifting faster than ever. With a background that spans radio, journalism, and a deep commitment to the indie agency community, Doug brings a unique lens to what’s happening across the industry. He explores forces reshaping the business, from economic pressure and changing client expectations to the accelerating impact of AI and emerging technologies. Doug reveals how successful indie agencies...

info_outline
341. What Innovations Means for Agencies Now, with Jeff Brecker show art 341. What Innovations Means for Agencies Now, with Jeff Brecker

The Innovative Agency

What does it really mean to be an “innovative agency” in 2026? Are we chasing the right signals, or just the loudest ones? On this episode of The Innovative Agency Podcast, Sharon Toerek sits down with Jeff Brecker, Partner in Innovation and Growth at Siberia, for a conversation about what innovation actually requires today. As AI dominates headlines and agencies feel mounting pressure to keep pace, Jeff challenges the notion that innovation is about adopting the latest tools. Instead he reframes it as the ability to solve real client problems in more meaningful, strategic ways. Drawing on...

info_outline
340. Your Agency By the Numbers This Year, with Jody Grunden show art 340. Your Agency By the Numbers This Year, with Jody Grunden

The Innovative Agency

This episode of The Innovative Agency Podcast welcomes Jody Grunden, Partner at Anders Virtual CFO and one of the most trusted financial advisors in the agency world. As technology reshapes how agencies deliver value and AI accelerates the pace of change, many agency leaders are asking the same questions: Are our pricing models still sustainable? Are we truly profitable? And are we planning well enough for what’s coming next? In this conversation, Jody brings decades of experience guiding agencies how to rethink the fundamentals of their financial strategy, from moving beyond hourly billing...

info_outline
339. Video That Converts, with Tim Bradley show art 339. Video That Converts, with Tim Bradley

The Innovative Agency

On this episode of The Innovative Agency Podcast, Sharon Toerek chats with Founder of Pennant Video Tim Bradley, about the strategic role of video in today’s agency landscape. Video is no longer just a top-of-funnel awareness play or a flashy add-on to a campaign. Done right, it’s a powerful mid-funnel engine that builds trust, nurtures prospects, and drives meaningful movement toward decision. Tim shares how his entrepreneurial journey led him to develop a distinctive mid-funnel video marketing framework designed specifically to create real impact for B2B brands. If your agency is looking...

info_outline
338. Turn Data into Loyalty, with Zino Rost van Tonningen show art 338. Turn Data into Loyalty, with Zino Rost van Tonningen

The Innovative Agency

On this episode of The Innovative Agency Podcast, Sharon Toerek is joined by Zino Rost van Tonningen, CEO and Founder of TyrAds, for a look at how reward-based marketing is redefining engagement in a mobile-first, data-driven world. As agencies wrestle with first-party data strategies, evolving privacy regulations, and the accelerating influence of AI, it feels increasingly complex to connect technology, marketing, and measurable growth. Zino helps us cut through that complexity. He shares how reward-based models, particularly within mobile apps and gaming environments, are unlocking powerful...

info_outline
337. Price for Outcomes, Not Hours, with Jonathan Stark show art 337. Price for Outcomes, Not Hours, with Jonathan Stark

The Innovative Agency

This week on The Innovative Agency Podcast Sharon Toerek welcomes pricing strategist Jonathan Stark for a candid conversation about breaking free from the cycle of trading hours for dollars. If you’ve ever wrestled with pricing your work, defending your margins, or responding to clients who default to hourly expectations, this episode will challenge the way you think about value and your agency’s future. Jonathan shares his journey from tech management to becoming a leading advocate for value-based pricing, explaining why hourly billing often undermines both profitability and client...

info_outline
 
More Episodes

This episode of The Innovative Agency Podcast features a guest that has truly seen our industry from every angle. Armando Turco, President of Mojo Supermarket, has built a career that spans major creative agencies, brand consultancies, media companies and crucially, leadership roles on the client side. That journey gives him a rare, unfiltered perspective on what’s really happening inside client organizations right now.

Armando discusses what agency leaders often don’t see: the internal pressures brands face, where agencies unintentionally create friction, and why smaller, independent agencies are uniquely positioned to win in this moment of disruption.

He shares why nimbleness and entrepreneurial thinking matter more than scale, how smart use of AI can strengthen (not replace) relationships, and what agency leaders need to rethink if they want to stay relevant and profitable.

What you will learn in this episode: 

  • How working on both agency and brand sides provides a fuller view that reveals hidden opportunities and risks

  • The real reasons clients choose (and stay with) their agencies

  • What agency leaders often overlook about their client’s world

  • Why now is a uniquely good time for small, nimble independent agencies

  • How AI is changing agency operations—not just as a threat, but as a tool for faster, more affordable, and bolder thinking

  • The value in candid conversations and setting clear success criteria for agency-client partnerships

Bio

Armando Turco is the President of Mojo Supermarket, a certified minority owned agency headquartered in Chinatown, NYC. Mojo Supermarket helps make brands more interesting, and is the Social Content AOR for brands like TikTok, Lululemon and The Truth Initiative.

Armando Turco was previously the SVP of Global Brand & Creative at Oatly, the world’s original and largest oat milk company. In his role leading the Oatly Department of Mind Control, Armando was responsible for all global brand strategy and creative development, earning him a spot on the Adweek Creative 100.

Prior to joining Oatly, Armando spent 20 years managing brand partnerships at Vox Media and agencies including BBH and McCann. He has developed strategies and content with leading brands like Sephora, PlayStation, Johnnie Walker, Axe and Verizon. He lives in New York City with his rescue mutt Andre Johnson.

Resources: