Ep830 | Dropoff Points When PTs Lose Momentum In The Clinic and Business With Yves Gege
Release Date: 07/08/2025
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In this episode, Doc Danny and Yves Gege break down two critical turning points they see repeatedly in physical therapy careers and business ownership: the three-year clinician dilemma and the five-year business owner burnout. They also dive into systems, leadership, continuity programs, and financial clarity as key tools to break through these walls. If you’ve ever felt stuck or unsure of your next move—this is the episode to hear.
🎯 Topics Covered
- Why so many PTs hit an identity crisis around 3 years into their career
- How lack of time freedom drives clinicians to explore new options
- The most common cause of burnout 5 years into business ownership
- Why continuity programs are the backbone of profitable, sustainable practices
- The difference between being a good clinician and a great business owner
- Leadership pitfalls: being too abrasive vs. trying to be everyone’s friend
- How poor systems and unclear financials stall growth and create chaos
- Why knowing your profit margin is like taking your business's blood pressure
💡 Key Quotes
"Just because someone isn’t in pain doesn’t mean you can’t help them."
"The #1 health metric for your business is profitability—don’t be afraid to measure it."
"If you want flexibility, you’ll have to build the job you want. Otherwise, you’re stuck in someone else’s."
"Starting and growing a business are completely different skill sets. Most fail by not learning the second one."
🧠 Pro Tips
- Track your finances monthly—know your gross revenue and profit margins
- Train your team on continuity, not just plan of care discharge
- Set clear core values and enforce them with consistency
- Don’t wait until you're burnt out—build systems early
- Balance clinical work and business work by reducing your treatment hours over time
🔗 Resources & Links
- Visit PT Biz – Learn how we help clinicians build successful practices
- Try Claire AI – Get 10 free AI-scribed notes and stop babysitting documentation
- Book a Free Strategy Call – Talk with a senior advisor about your practice goals
- Join the 5-Day Challenge – Go from part-time to full-time with a clear plan
- Subscribe on YouTube – Watch more deep dives and real-world advice
🧭 Final Thought
Whether you’re hitting the three-year “do I want to be a PT?” wall or the five-year “did I build myself a prison?” moment in business, the answer lies in systems, leadership, continuity, and clarity. Don’t wing it. Learn the business side of things. And don’t wait until burnout hits—build proactively. You’ve got options. You’ve got support. Just don’t settle.