Lightning Safety and Myth Busting with NOAA Meteorologist Charlie Woodrum (BPR #308)
Release Date: 06/02/2025
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info_outlineIn today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are giving you the lowdown on everything to do with lightning safety. We are joined by Charlie Woodrum who is the Preparedness and Resilience Lead with National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Weather Service. We learn all about the biggest myths regarding lightning safety (including how metal trekking poles aren’t an added risk while backpacking), clear guidance on minimizing risk when caught in a thunderstorm, telltale signs of when the weather is going to turn, at what distance from a lightning strike are you considered safe, and much more.
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Interview with Charlie Woodrum
Time stamps & Questions
00:05:20 - Reminders: listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon, and apply to blog for the Trek!
00:11:15 - Introducing Charlie
00:12:20 - Tell us about NOAA
00:14:02 - How did you initially get into weather?
00:16:56 - Do meteorologists have certain traits?
00:19:03 - What is the perfect date for weather?
00:22:50 - Are you ever bored when the weather is calm?
00:23:35 - Are there hot topics in the meteorology community?
00:25:57 - Do you have any crazy storm chasing stories?
00:34:11 - What are the biggest misconceptions about lightning?
00:36:28 - What should you do when hiking above treeline?
00:38:00 - Is the timing between thunder and lightning real?
00:39:24 - What are your recommended weather apps?
00:40:40 - How far away should you be from lightning strikes to be considered safe?
00:41:35 - Do you find that free weather apps are sufficient?
00:42:50 - What are some of the early signs of a thunderstorm forming?
00:44:11 - What are the cues for specific locations?
00:46:45 - Do you not have to worry about lightning before you hear thunder?
00:47:56 - Where should you be when in a forest?
00:50:00 - Is the lightning crouch still recommended?
00:51:30 - What if there’s no treeline around?
00:53:30 - Where should you put your tent?
00:57:00 - What percentage of lightning strikes are fatal?
00:59:40 - What do you do if someone gets struck by lightning?
01:02:05 - Should hikers be concerned about metal objects they’re carrying?
01:03:30 - What about bodies of water?
01:04:40 - What are some obvious questions that we haven’t asked?
01:06:35 - What should you do if you feel tingly or there’s static in the air?
01:08:27 - At what percentage of forecasted storms would you feel comfortable going outside?
01:11:00 - When is it safe to go back up to the treeline?
01:12:00 - Are there places where weather is harder to predict?
01:14:05 - What impact do you think AI will have on the future of forecasting?
01:16:16 - Are there any tech innovations that you’re excited about?
01:17:30 - Where can people keep up with you?
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