MTC 029 Dr. Abbie Maroño The Upper Hand How Social Engineers Use Psychology (And How You Can Too)
Move The Chains Podcast | Unlocking Your Full Potential with Ryan Munsey
Release Date: 02/03/2026
Move The Chains Podcast | Unlocking Your Full Potential with Ryan Munsey
Positive thinking is sabotaging your performance. Performance psychologist and neuroscientist Dr. Raymond Prior joins the Move The Chains Podcast to break down why "just believe in yourself" backfires under pressure, and what elite athletes and executives do instead. Drawing on decades of work with Olympians and high performers, Raymond explains the difference between stable and unstable confidence, why acceptance is the launchpad for action, and how to build a mindset that holds up when it matters most. In this episode: Why forcing positivity actually hurts performance The 5 sources of...
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Judd Shaw had the billboards. The yacht. The thriving law firm. And one night he was curled up on his garage floor wondering if it was worth going on. In this episode, USA Today bestselling author and attorney Judd Shaw tells the story behind How to Live Authentically — the real one, not the polished version. Ryan and Judd go deep on why high performers are often the most disconnected people in the room, how success becomes a coping mechanism for unaddressed pain, and what it actually takes to stop performing and start showing up as who you really are. In this episode: Why external...
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What does it take to win an Olympic medal, build a gym named #1 in California, pivot to a multi-million dollar online business when COVID shut everything down — and do it all while homeschooling your kids across three continents? Tony Jeffries has done all of it, and in this episode he breaks down exactly how. Tony is a bronze medalist from the 2008 Beijing Olympics, founder of Box N Burn, and creator of one of the most successful boxing education businesses on the internet. Ryan and Tony dig into the real psychology of success — why most people have all the information they need and still...
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What if you're failing at your habits because you're approaching them completely wrong? Rob Stein is a national speaker, championship bodybuilder, published author, and creator of the "Impossible to Fail" framework. With a Master's degree in education and decades of experience coaching high performers, he's built a system that removes the guesswork from habit formation — and reframes what it actually means to succeed. You'll learn: Why "what do you want to accomplish?" is the wrong question — and what to ask instead The truth about habits: they don't start as habits, they start as...
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Most people treat self-sabotage like a willpower problem. Board-certified psychiatrist Dr. Daniel Hochman says they're looking in the wrong place entirely. In this episode, Ryan sits down with the creator of Self-Recovery.org to break down the real psychology behind addiction, self-sabotage, and why high performers are actually more susceptible to destructive behavioral patterns — not less. Dr. Hochman's first-principles approach cuts through the noise around dopamine, habit loops, and treatment dogma to get to what's actually driving the behavior. You'll learn why dopamine isn't the...
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Navid Nazemian is the #1 executive coach in the world (CEO Today), author of "Mastering Executive Transitions," and has 25+ years coaching C-suite leaders at BP, Caterpillar, Coca-Cola, and more. Nearly 40% of executives fail within their first 18 months. In this conversation, Navid reveals exactly why — and the proven framework to beat those odds. In this episode: • Why the "first 90 days" rule sets most executives up to fail • The 7 phases of The Double Diamond Framework© of Executive Transitions • The Five C's EVERY leader must master • Why soft skills (not technical ability)...
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Brad Beeler is a 25-year Secret Service veteran, federal polygraph examiner, and author of "Tell Me Everything." After serving on President George H.W. Bush's protection detail and training agents in credibility assessment and elicitation, Brad now teaches everyday people the same frameworks used in high-stakes investigations. In this episode: Why your first impression is a cognitive trap (the Horns & Halos effect) The FEEL method for building real rapport fast How investigators use "bait questions" — and how you can use them ethically Why "me too" responses sabotage connection...
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What separates a good leader from an elite one? According to T. Rowe Price CIO Sebastien Page, it's not skill. It's the mental game. Sebastien oversees over a trillion dollars in assets and has spent decades applying sports psychology to business leadership. In this episode of Move The Chains, he breaks down the mastery vs. ego framework, why eliminating stress is the wrong goal, and the single most powerful thing a leader can say to their team. In this episode: Mastery vs. ego: why elite performers measure themselves differently The Yerkes-Dodson curve and your optimal stress zone Why "I got...
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David Meltzer is the chairman of the Napoleon Hill Institute, co-founder of Sports 1 Marketing, and former CEO of the Lee Steinberg Sports Agency - the real agency behind Jerry Maguire. He's a bestselling author, sought-after speaker, and one of the most recognized voices in high-performance business and mindset. His mission: make a lot of money, help a lot of people, and have a lot of fun doing it. David Meltzer built a $100 million empire, lost it all, and rebuilt from zero. What he learned in the process will completely change the way you think about money, generosity, and asking for...
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James Beshara was doing everything hustle culture told him to — 14-hour days, 7 days a week, 6-7 cups of coffee, a top Y Combinator batch — and ended up in the ER with a heart condition in his 20s. Today he's the founder of Magic Mind (approaching $100M in sales), an angel investor in 150+ companies including OpenAI and Liquid Death, and wakes up to surf every morning. What changed? A deep dive into 5,000-year-old Advaita Vedanta philosophy that rewired how he works, leads, and lives. In this episode: the burnout moment that broke him, why "wanting it more" is a trap, the principle "attach...
info_outlineIn this powerful conversation, Dr. Abbie Maroño – behavioral scientist, social engineer, and author of The Upper Hand – reveals how to ethically use the science of persuasion to influence decisions, build trust, and protect yourself from manipulation in everyday life. We unpack the real psychology behind social engineering, nonverbal communication, and trust so you can read people more accurately, communicate with confidence, and stop getting emotionally “hacked” in your inbox, meetings, and relationships. Dr. Maroño breaks down practical frameworks from The Upper Hand and her work with law enforcement, security professionals, and leaders to show you how to spot red flags, ask better questions, and create instant rapport—without being fake or manipulative. Whether you’re a leader, creator, salesperson, or simply tired of being at the mercy of other people’s agendas, this episode will give you actionable strategies to:
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Decode key nonverbal cues and body language.
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Ethically influence decisions and get buy‑in.
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Recognize common manipulation and social engineering tactics.
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Build trust quickly in high‑stakes conversations.
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Protect your identity, emotions, and attention from being exploited.
If you’ve ever wished you could walk into any room, conversation, or negotiation with the upper hand—without sacrificing your values—this episode is your playbook.
Chapters
- 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Abbey Murano
- 01:08 Dr. Abbey's Journey: From Struggles to Success
- 12:15 The Upper Hand Framework: Building Trust and Influence
- 19:04 The Five Principles of Influence
- 29:00 Emotional Control: The Key to Effective Communication
- 29:04 Understanding the Brain's Role in Decision Making
- 32:47 The Importance of Social Connections
- 35:51 Navigating Societal Norms and Personal Beliefs
- 39:57 The Mind-Body Connection
- 45:40 The Power of Self-Identity
Links:
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