239 - The Haunting in Wicker Park and the True Story Behind the Upcoming Film - Big Seance
Big Seance: My Paranormal World
Release Date: 11/30/2023
Big Seance: My Paranormal World
Dr. Olivia Cacchione, a musicologist, sat with Patrick in the parlor to discuss her current work and study of music and sound in Victorian seances. Olivia also shared about years of uncomfortable out-of-body experiences and hearing voices that led to her being diagnosed with Temporal Lobe Epilepsy. Plus skepticism, haunted listening, enchantment, possibility vs. disbelief, Victorians and the accordion, the channeled music of Rosemary Brown, and asking the question, “How does music haunt us?” Visit for more info. In this episode: Intro :00 Dr. Olivia Cacchione studies the...
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Brad Blair of the Upper Peninsula Paranormal Research Society and Jesse Leimkuehler from Belvoir Winery and Inn, join together to create the Missouri Paracon, which will take place at Ameristar Kansas City from February 28th to March 1st 2025. Patrick gets the scoop on what’s in store for those attending. Plus conversation on topics such as psychics, apparitions, people who flee haunted locations, drones and alien invasions, and changes in the paranormal space since the boom that started with Syfy’s Ghost Hunters. Visit for more info. In this episode: Intro :00 Brad Blair...
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Titanic expert James Penca joins Patrick in the parlor for this unique episode of the Big Seance. James is a spokesperson and researcher for RMS Titanic, Inc., Creative Director for Titanic: Honor and Glory, and host of the Witness Titanic podcast. He only recently returned from the exciting 2024 Titanic Expedition that made headlines. Have you ever wondered what can be learned about a passenger or crew member, just from recovering a single artifact from the wreckage? Other topics include the re-discovery of the statue of Diana, the debate on whether the famous wreckage is a...
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Earlier this year, psychic medium Jeni Juranics released an episode of her Spirit Call podcast where she opened up about what she described as a heartbreaking experience at a mediumship conference, where on more than one occasion she witnessed a fairly well-known physical medium faking seances. She decided to call out his fraudulent behavior. He’s been called out before, but Jeni’s story seems to have struck a chord with many in the community. In this important and sometimes emotional conversation, Patrick and Jeni discuss what this means for the mediumship community, as well...
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Evidential Medium, Jeffrey Peck, returns to the show with advice and inspiration for developing mediums. Does the structure of a medium's training help or hinder them? How does one get over fears and imposter syndrome? And what is considered great evidence? Plus lots of laughs and news about some exciting Sedona retreats! Visit for more info. In this episode: Intro :00 Some notes about today’s conversation with Jeffrey Peck, including that of a big belly laugh and delicious simmering homemade soup! :49 Bio for Jeffrey Peck 2:28 Catching up! 4:47 Lessons, growth,...
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In anticipation of an exciting private overnight at the historic and haunted Lemp Mansion with Australia's Anne and Renata, Patrick shares an episode of their True Hauntings Podcast. In this 2021 episode, titled "Case 17: The Curse of Lemp Mansion", Anne and Renata cover the tragic history and lore of the Lemp family and their famous St. Louis home. Visit for more info. In this episode: Intro :00 Patrick has been getting excited for Anne and Renata’s next trip to the US from Australia. This fall they’ll be spending a few days in his area, which will include a...
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Join Patrick in a truly interesting conversation with author and psychic medium June Lundgren, who refers to herself as a demon seer whose specialty is getting rid of demons. Along with detailed descriptions of what she sees and how she works, June also covers archangels and tells stories of working with Zak Bagans and the Ghost Adventures crew! She is the author of the forthcoming book, Dark Encounters. Visit for more info. In this episode: Intro :00 June Lundgren is a psychic, medium, demon seer, healer, animal communicator, international author, and nurse. She is...
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In this episode we look back at highlights of two great interviews from 2017 and 2019. Roberta Grimes is an afterlife expert, author of The Fun of Dying: Find Out What Really Happens Next, and host of the Seek Reality podcast. Sandra Champlain is the author of We Don't Die - A Skeptic’s Discovery of Life After Death and host of We Don't Die Radio and Shades of the Afterlife. Visit for more info. In this episode: Intro :00 A remastered look back at two afterlife experts! :49 Highlights from with Roberta Grimes, afterlife expert and author of The Fun of Dying: Find Out...
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Psychic Medium Dana Stricker tells Patrick of the fascinating, yet strange experiences of her childhood that helped to shape her work, which began at the age of 15 when she gave tarot readings. Other topics include her "Battle Axe" of a spirit guide, a shared experience that left a handprint burned into Dana's leg, and what it really means to be a Witch! Plus, what's life like on the Other Side? Visit for more info. In this episode: Intro :00 Dana Stricker’s Bio :46 Patrick and Dana met each other at Amy Bruni’s Strange Escapes event at Belvoir Winery in 2022. 2:26...
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Have you received communication from a dead loved one? In this Part 2 episode, listeners Leslie, Kelly, Susan, Bruce, and Amy certainly have! From a physical and literal sign left on a desk to a comforting voice from the garden. Plus a spirit who communicates through an alarm system, the return of a beloved cat, and a lost and found bracelet. Visit for more info, and to learn how you can share your own story! In this episode: Intro :00 Patrick recently asked listeners to send in stories of messages from loved ones in the spirit world. The most recent episode, , was Part 1...
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Have you heard about the upcoming film, The Haunting in Wicker Park, starring Erin Moriarty (The Boys) and Jamie Campbell Bower (Stranger Things)? It was inspired by the experiences of the Becker family who invited NBC News cameras to film an exorcism in their Chicago home in 1971. Hear what we’ve learned about this new film, and take another listen to Patrick's 2014 interview with Edwin F. Becker, who sadly passed away about a year ago. Visit BigSeance.com/239 for more info.
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Today we reach back into the Big Seance archives to re-visit the two-part interview with Edwin F. Becker in 2014, about the frightening, real-life experiences that he and his family suffered through in the early 1970s in their home in Chicago. Those experiences led to NBC’s Carole Simpson filming the first televised exorcism in their home in 1971. Edwin's book, True Haunting, originated as just a journal to document it all. The accounts of the activity are just amazing, and as Patrick said in his review for the book over 10 years ago, it reads like amazing fiction… except it’s not. In 2012, the Paranormal Witness series featured the Becker family in an episode titled, The Tenants, and Patrick highly recommends that you check that out, if you can. The 2-part interview for the Big Seance that we’re revisiting today, was one of the first interviews Patrick had that he felt was really big, he was super proud of it, and Edwin later reached out to him to tell him that to that date it was perhaps the best interview he'd ever been a part of. :50
Sadly, Edwin died about a year ago in November of 2022. But to Patrick’s surprise, today he discovered that there was a major motion picture in post-production, called The Haunting in Wicker Park, directed by Gary Fleder, and starring Jamie Campbell Bower, who played Henry Creel and Vecna in the fourth season of the Netflix series, Stranger Things. iMDb says it was supposed to be released in 2023, but 2024 is just around the corner and there are no trailers yet. There are, however, some behind-the-scenes production photos. Edwin was aware and knew about the upcoming film, because he excitedly announced it in one of his last social media posts. If you know any details about the release of the film, please let us know at [email protected]. 2:22
Audio of the historic 1971 NBC footage of the exorcism of the Becker home with journalist Carole Simpson. Thanks to Edwin, the footage exists on YouTube. The aged audio is kind of atrocious, but it’s worth a listen. 5:05
The following interview was originally released in two parts in November of 2014:
Edwin F. Becker’s bio. 11:06
Background on Edwin’s book, True Haunting. 12:41
Edwin takes us back to 1970 and a story that begins with the purchase of an old two-story building, a home made up of two apartments, each on its own floor. 14:08
“Eddie, I’m never coming down here.” Edwin brought his wife, Marsha, in to see the new home and the basement. He hoped that she would see that they could fix it up and make it into a home. She was not a fan of the basement. 21:03
Nasty fighting among the family of the deceased former owner, and a deal to keep Myra, a scary old remaining tenant for 120 days. 24:00
“We started having anomalies immediately. I believe spirits are intelligent. I don’t know if they can look into your soul and see everything you’ve ever done, like a demon can, but I know that they can sense what you’re going to do and read your mind. I learned that while we lived there, because they could anticipate my actions whenever I tried to record them on a tape recorder.” 26:49
It all started with Marsha and the phone. 27:14
Edwin finally understands that there is a problem in the home, and he calls in a priest for a house blessing. It didn’t go well and he bolted! 30:05
“What do you do about it?” 35:34
The mysterious sheds in the basement. 37:42
New downstairs tenants. 39:35
Runaway dogs. And Edwin borrows a tape recorder. 44:18
“But over time, what happens is you wind up walking on egg shells, number one, because you don’t know what’s going to actually happen next. And you don’t know what to attribute to paranormal and what not to attribute to paranormal.” 46:53
“…it started toying with me. That was the first time it actually turned on the gas on the stove.” 50:15
“I started thinking about burning the place down.” 51:25
“And ghosts lie.” Paranormal investigation, Electronic Voice Phenomena (EVP), and Ouija boards. 52:18
“No. I don’t go ghost hunting, because you’re going to walk into a room if you know there’s an energy there, and you really don’t know if it’s a teddy bear or a raptor. And it can come home with you. There can be attachments.” 54:07
Bullets and Yellow Pages. The Beckers turned to Joseph
DeLouise, a famous Chicago psychic. 54:30
Turning to exorcism. 59:39
A phone call from Carole Simpson and NBC led to the first televised exorcism. 1:03:50
“But if you look in that YouTube piece at about the minute and a half mark, there will be a dark doorway. There is no door on that. It was a vinyl folding door. You’re going to see a ghost start to come out and go back in briefly. You’re going to think that a woman’s skirt or a woman’s robe or something is coming through the door. You’re going to see the tip of it, solid as a rock, and then you’re going to see it back off.” 1:07:05
“That exorcism went on for three and a half hours, and it was very, very creepy.” 1:08:25
“And then there’s a clear child’s voice that says, ‘mama.’” 1:08:25
“If you look at the end of the exorcism, you can tell that they were not successful. You can look on their faces and they look like they just lost a basketball game by 52 points. And they left.” 1:10:25
“The only thing we could do was get out of there.” 1:10:43
A brief discussion of the Amityville story and that film. 1:14:55
A haunted piano. 1:17:34
Edwin’s advice for anyone going through a haunting, plus current ghostly activity. 1:21:54
Edwin on orbs, photography, and Hollywood’s representation of hauntings. 1:26:50
A Near Death Experience (NDE) 1:31:35
Outro 1:41:19
A special THANK YOU to Patreon supporters at the Super Paranerd and Parlor Guest level! 1:42:38
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