#412: From Anti-Aging to Age Reversal: The Exosome & Copper Peptide Breakthrough For Younger Skin With Debbi Barber and Dr. Jordan Plews
LONGEVITY with Nathalie Niddam
Release Date: 02/13/2026
LONGEVITY with Nathalie Niddam
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Today, I’m joined by , an innovative leader in the biology of trauma, whose work bridges the worlds of science, medicine, and lived experience. In our conversation, Dr. Apigian opens up about her journey from conventional medicine—where symptom management was the norm—to uncovering the physiological roots of trauma and the crucial role our nervous system plays in resilience and healing. She shares how her own health struggles, her work with adopted children, and a relentless curiosity led her to re-examine everything she thought she knew about stress, autoimmunity, and capacity. The...
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Episode Timestamps:
Welcome and podcast purpose ... 00:00:00
Shift from beauty to science and health ... 00:09:23
GHK-Cu’s role in longevity and skin repair ... 00:10:15
Dr. Plews on regenerative medicine and stem cells ... 00:11:14
From peptides to exosomes: product evolution ... 00:13:35
Stem cell exhaustion and need for exosome signaling ... 00:14:07
Copper peptides vs. exosomes: complementary actions ... 00:18:00
Why source and age of exosomes matter ... 00:25:20
Quality, safety, and labeling in exosome products ... 00:35:01
How exosomes and peptides benefit skin deeper layers ... 00:44:35
Visible results: barrier, redness, scars, texture ... 00:58:05
What to expect: younger vs. older skin ... 01:00:01
Proof and stories: customer transformations ... 01:01:59
More isn’t better: exosome dosing myth ... 01:07:03
Supporting ingredients: vitamin C, glutathione, SOD2 ... 01:11:31
Skin as a window into systemic aging ... 01:19:08
The future: personalized, organ-targeted exosome therapies ... 01:24:02
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