The Price of Policy: Taxes, Tariffs, and Capital Flows
The Outthinking Investor with Daleep Singh
Release Date: 09/09/2025
The Power Play: Is Fusion Nearing a Kitty Hawk Moment?
The Outthinking Investor with Daleep Singh
In an era of AI, data centers and electrification, rising power demand presents a range of challenges and investment opportunities across the energy sector. Bottlenecks in the supply chain, such as the backlog in gas turbine production, have grabbed headlines while the power-hungry digital infrastructure buildout lifts energy consumption. With the grid increasingly strained, commercial-grade fusion power is one innovative solution emerging in a rapidly evolving energy landscape. PGIM’s Daleep Singh visits Commonwealth Fusion Systems CEO Bob Mumgaard for a conversation inside the facility...
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Warsh’s Opening Act: Inside the Fed’s Regime Shift with James Bullard
The Outthinking Investor with Daleep Singh
The arrival of Kevin Warsh as Chair of the Federal Reserve marked a regime shift. At its June meeting, the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) dropped its easing bias, opening the door to interest rate hikes as supply shocks collide with hotter demand. The Fed also announced five new task forces to evaluate key priorities, from inflation frameworks to AI’s impact on productivity and the labor market. Under Warsh, the central bank sent an unmistakable message: This is just the opening act for a very different Fed. James Bullard, former President and CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of St....
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Strategic Stalemate: What Investors Miss About U.S.-China Competition
The Outthinking Investor with Daleep Singh
The military concept of escalation dominance posits that the side controlling the pace and pain of a conflict determines the outcome. For most of the Cold War era, the U.S. had escalation dominance—militarily, technologically, and economically—but the use of economic statecraft was limited. That era is over. As great power competition intensifies, the relationship between the U.S. and China offers a view into where competition is headed and what it means for global stability. While the U.S.-China summit resulted in an effective truce, there are deeper takeaways that investors and other...
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Beyond the Battlefield: Chokepoints in the Age of Economic Warfare
The Outthinking Investor with Daleep Singh
Global conflicts are increasingly playing out in the economic arena, not just on the battlefield. The war in Iran represents a collision of both. Physical and financial chokepoints can be used for strategic leverage; they also raise potential vulnerabilities. To unpack how and why economic warfare is reshaping the macro landscape, Daleep Singh speaks with Edward Fishman, author of “Chokepoints: American Power in the Age of Economic Warfare” and Senior Fellow and Director of the Maurice R. Greenberg Center for Geoeconomics at the Council on Foreign Relations. The discussion explores...
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The Old Normal: Macro Shocks Amid War, AI, and Economic Rivalries
The Outthinking Investor with Daleep Singh
Marc Sumerlin, Managing Partner at Evenflow Macro and former Deputy Director of the White House National Economic Council under President George W. Bush, joins Daleep Singh for a conversation about economic transformation on this episode of PGIM’s The Outthinking Investor. Daleep and Marc talk about macro shocks stemming from the Iran war, how U.S. budget deficits will influence policy rates and the economy, and the relationship between monetary and fiscal authorities in a new age of economic competition. The discussion...
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Second Order Effects – From Iran to China: A Live Conversation with Dr. Kurt Campbell
The Outthinking Investor with Daleep Singh
Daleep welcomed Kurt for an in-depth look at the U.S.-China relationship and the Iran war’s implications for Asia-Pacific. Speaking in front of a live audience, they also discussed how geopolitical shifts are reshaping economies, strategic leverage lurking in critical supply chains, and the outlook for Japan.
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Follow the Money: Inside the World’s Financial Plumbing
The Outthinking Investor with Daleep Singh
Daleep Singh catches up with Brad Setser, Whitney Shepardson senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and former senior adviser to the U.S. Trade Representative, to gather his perspectives on how entrenched imbalances are translating into strategic leverage between economic powers. They explore the world’s financial plumbing, changes in trade and capital flows, and the implications for global markets. In this episode, Daleep and Brad also discuss: Why the world may be...
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Rethinking Risk and Global Power with Jake Sullivan
The Outthinking Investor with Daleep Singh
Daleep Singh welcomes Jake Sullivan, the Kissinger Professor of the Practice of Statecraft and World Order at the Harvard Kennedy School and former U.S. National Security Advisor, for a conversation about the forces reshaping global power and what they mean for markets and investment strategy. In this episode, Daleep and Jake discuss: Whether the world is moving toward regional spheres of influence; How technology is becoming the new battleground for great power competition; The interplay between national security, American statecraft, and the global economy; And how U.S. policy choices could...
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Trailer: The Outthinking Investor
The Outthinking Investor with Daleep Singh
Markets trade on more than just economic data. They trade on geopolitics, technology, policy, and elections. In a world searching for a new equilibrium, old assumptions are expensive mistakes. Daleep Singh, Vice Chair and Chief Global Economist at PGIM, has spent his career at the intersection of markets and policy, from the U.S. Treasury and Federal Reserve to the White House. Now, Daleep is sharing his perspectives with you. On PGIM’s The Outthinking Investor, Daleep sits down with prominent economists, technologists, policymakers, and market veterans to map out the full distribution...
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Cycles, Crises, And the Currency of Change with Ray Dalio
The Outthinking Investor with Daleep Singh
Ray Dalio, founder of one of the world’s largest hedge funds, Bridgewater Associates, joins us for a special edition of The Outthinking Investor. Dalio sat down with PGIM’s George Patterson, Chief Investment Officer of Quantitative Solutions, for a conversation about anticipating the onset of big market cycles and constructing balanced portfolios for new regimes. They discuss the impact of idiosyncratic risks and geopolitical shifts; the evolution of public and private credit markets; AI’s transformative influence on the global economy; the five major forces that create big cycles; and...
info_outlineFiscal policy shifts, from taxes to tariffs, are steering global capital and trade flows. The US, for instance, is attracting investments despite the tariff headlines—illustrating how the impact of these policies continues to evolve. In a dynamic policy environment, taxes and tariffs could create new implications for asset classes, sectors, and market structures.
This episode of The Outthinking Investor explores macro implications from taxes and tariffs, how policy changes are shaping the way investors allocate capital, and why economic growth could be more resilient against higher tariffs than in the past.
Our guests are:
- Douglas Holtz-Eakin, President of the American Action Forum and former Director of the Congressional Budget Office
- Kimberly Clausing, professor of tax law and policy at UCLA School of Law and former lead economist in the US Treasury’s Office of Tax Policy
- Jeffrey Young, Head of Investment Strategy for PGIM’s quant team
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