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Episode 14: Counter-Dependence

Buttrfly Effect podcast

Release Date: 02/18/2021

Episode 14: Counter-Dependence show art Episode 14: Counter-Dependence

Buttrfly Effect podcast

Host Gail Ferguson Jones talks with Clinical Psychologist Barry Weinhold, who has coined the phrase "counter-dependence," which he describes as living a false self that keeps one from establishing intimate relationships. Weinhold is the author of more than 75 books, the latest of which is titled "Get Real. The Hazard of Living Out of Your False Self." He and his wife, Janae, are co-directors of the Colorado Institute for Conflict Resolution and Creative Leadership. In this episode, Weinhold discusses how counter-dependence, also described as radical self-reliance, is the inability to establish...

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Episode 13: Answering the Question: Who Am I? show art Episode 13: Answering the Question: Who Am I?

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Host Gail Ferguson Jones speaks with Paul Noiles, an addiction recovery coach specializing in substance use, behavioral issues and family dysfunction. He is the author of the upcoming book "Mistaken Identity. The Sacred Journey from Addiction to Awakening." Paul says the key to recovering from addiction begins with recognizing the source of pain in one's life and letting go of their mistaken identity. He said one connects with their true self when they can answer the question, who am I? To learn more about Paul Noiles, his coaching programs and his book, go to: Gail Ferguson Jones is an...

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Episode 12: Addiction, Covid and the Holidays show art Episode 12: Addiction, Covid and the Holidays

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Host Gail Ferguson Jones speaks with Jay Rivera, program director for CFC Recovery in New Jersey. He is a certified peer recovery specialist, a drug and alcohol counselor, and an interventionist. Jay explains how the social isolation of the Covic-19 pandemic is affecting the recovery community, and talks about the common challenges the holidays pose for substance users and their families and friends. CFC Recovery provides an array of services, including treatment, sober living homes, long-term aftercare and relapse prevention. To learn more; go to: Gail Ferguson Jones is an award-winning...

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Episode 11: Love Addiction and Codependency show art Episode 11: Love Addiction and Codependency

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Host Gail Ferguson Jones speaks with Psychotherapist Sherry Gaba, author of the new book, "Love Smacked: How to Stop the Cycle of Relationship Addiction and Codependency to Find Everlasting Love." Some may remember Sherry from her role on VH1's "Celebrity Rehab," with Dr. Drew Pinsky, and the spinoffs, "Sober House" and "Celebrity Rehab's Sex Addiction." Sherry is also a certified recovery coach specializing in love addiction and narcissistic abuse. She is currently offering coaching through her Wake Up Recovery program.  You can learn more at or https://sherrygaba.com.  And you can...

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Episode 10: Sober Life, Happy Wife show art Episode 10: Sober Life, Happy Wife

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Host Gail Ferguson Jones speaks with Sheri Salis, co-host with her husband, Matt, of the Untoxicated Podcast, and co-author of the ebook, "He's Sober. Now What? A Spouse's Guide of Alcoholism Recovery." Sheri shares her experience of healing a marriage damaged by years of her husband's alcohol abuse, the need to overcome resentments, regain trust and rebuild intimacy. In Matt Salis's new book, "soberevolution: Evolve into Sobriety and Recover Your Alcoholic Marriage," he tells of his slide into alcoholism and his eventual commitment to sobriety. In the last episode of The Buttrfly Effect...

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Episode 9: Recovering Your Alcoholic Marriage show art Episode 9: Recovering Your Alcoholic Marriage

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Host Gail Ferguson Jones talks with Matt Salis, author of "soberevolution: Evolve into Sobriety and Recover Your Alcoholic Marriage." Matt and his wife, Sheri, are host of the Untoxicated Podcast, and offer a community of support through their Echoes of Recovery program. In the first of this two-part episode, Matt describes his descent into alcoholism, his denial of the affects his drinking had on his marriage and children, and his road to sobriety. In the next episode, Matt's wife, Sheri, will share the challenges of healing a marriage damaged by alcohol abuse. You can learn more about the...

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Episode 8: Therapeutic Approach to Recovery show art Episode 8: Therapeutic Approach to Recovery

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Host Gail Ferguson Jones talks with Donna Gapas, a licensed clinical social worker specializing in individual, couples and family therapy. She takes an interactive therapeutic approach to helping clients address personal life challenges. Gapas has 30 years experience treating trauma, anxiety disorders, depression, addiction and grief. She is a part-time lecturer at Rutgers University's Graduate School of Social Work, and speaks at national conferences on the topics of addiction, crisis intervention and family issues. Host Gail Ferguson Jones is an award-winning journalist, speaker,...

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Host Gail Ferguson Jones discusses the topic of gaslighting with Tami Reseda Atman, host of The Stuck Stops Here Podcast, and author of a book by the same name. Atman, who has done extensive research on the subject, shares her experience with abusive narcissistic family relationships and codependency. She stresses that setting healthy boundaries, accountability and emotional intelligence are at the heart of recovery and healing. Atman also is a lyricist with an album, "Torch Songs for the Healing Journey," available on Spotify and Apple iTunes. Book:  Podcast: Music: Instagram: Gail...

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Episode 6: Secondhand Drinking show art Episode 6: Secondhand Drinking

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Host Gail Ferguson Jones speaks with Author, Speaker and Consultant Lisa Frederiksen about secondhand drinking, a term she coined to describe the effects of alcohol use on loved ones. Frederiksen has spent 16 years researching substance abuse and mental health disorders. She has written 12 books, including her latest, the 10 Anniversary Edition of "If You Loved Me, You'd Stop! What you really need to know when your loved one drinks too much." Frederiksen can be reached for speaking or consulting at or by email at . The National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) offers information on treatment...

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Episode 5: Recipe for Happiness show art Episode 5: Recipe for Happiness

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Host Gail Ferguson Jones talks with author and life coach Jeoffrey R. Hutcherson, a teacher and speaker who helps others develop a personal recipe for happiness in every area of their life, no matter how trying the circumstances. In this episode, he shares how he helped a friend find his way back to happiness after being caught in the struggle of his wife's alcoholism. Gail Ferguson Jones, a recovering codependent, is an award-winning journalist, speaker and peer-to-peer recovery coach. Her Buttrfly Effect program serves those struggling with the addiction of a loved one. To learn more or to...

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Host Gail Ferguson Jones talks with Clinical Psychologist Barry Weinhold, who has coined the phrase "counter-dependence," which he describes as living a false self that keeps one from establishing intimate relationships.

Weinhold is the author of more than 75 books, the latest of which is titled "Get Real. The Hazard of Living Out of Your False Self." He and his wife, Janae, are co-directors of the Colorado Institute for Conflict Resolution and Creative Leadership.

In this episode, Weinhold discusses how counter-dependence, also described as radical self-reliance, is the inability to establish healthy relationships and, if untreated, leads to addiction, isolation and depression. 

To learn more about Barry Weinhold, his work and books, go to: https://weinholds.org/

Gail Ferguson Jones is an award-winning journalist, speaker, podcaster and  recovery coach, who helps families reclaim their peace of mind and freedom from the dysfunction of a loved one's addiction.

Her Buttrfly Effect program offers peer-to-peer coaching specializing in recovery from codependency.

To learn more or to subscribe to her newsletter, go to http://www.buttrflyeffect.com/ or contact me at http://www.buttrflyeffect.com/contact/

Music for The Buttrfly Effect Podcast, "Inspire Me," by Mixaund at https://www.mixaundbandcamp.com.