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EP #48: Leading the Way as a Values-Based Law Firm with Kristina Lawson

The Future Is Bright Podcast

Release Date: 01/07/2025

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“It’s all about people management,” says today’s guest Kristina Lawson, drawing parallels between her time as the former mayor of Walnut Creek, CA to her current role as managing partner at Hanson Bridgett LLP, a mid-sized firm which like Kristina, whose practice was in real estate and land use, has a deep connection and dedication to California and its communities. This values-based California law firm’s equity partners comprise nearly 40 percent women—virtually unheard of in the AmLaw 200—which reflects its pioneering and foundational policies of diversity, equity and inclusion. On today’s episode of The Future is Bright, Kristina discusses the firm’s guiding principles, their agile workforce policy that pre-dated the Covid 19 pandemic, and its exemplary approach to transitioning power to the next generation. 

The key, Kristina explains, is a willingness to adapt to new working styles, seeing them as opportunities for growth rather than points of criticism. She also discusses the biggest threat to the business of law, the crucial piece of work culture she feels was lost to Covid, and how Hanson Bridgett LLP is navigating the advent of AI.

Join today’s discussion to learn more about Kristina and Hanson Bridgett LLP’s shared guiding principle of putting people first, and the number one issue that keeps her up at night. 

Quotes

  • “It’s helpful to check back in, both to ground me and the reasons I joined Hanson Bridgett and what Hanson Bridgett’s all about, and again also to check in on those promises I made to our partnership about the direction we’d head in with me at the helm.” (7:32 | Kristina Lawson)

  • “Being the mayor of a mid-sized town and the managing partner of a mid-sized firm, there’s a lot of consensus-building and it’s all about people management. Whether it’s constituent management as the mayor or managing the other members of the city council…it’s all about figuring out where those consensus positions are and building trusted relationships, even with people that you don’t agree with, on key issues, so that you can continue to move forward. Those are really the same issues we have here at our partnership.” (8:20 | Kristina Lawson)

  • “We need to adapt to where they’re at. Just because they’re doing something differently, does not mean they’re doing it wrong.” (15:47 | Kristina Lawson)

  • “Founded by a group who really believed in diversity, equity and inclusion and values-based lawyering before it was a thing…One of the reasons I joined Hanson Bridgett was the firm has an equity partnership which is made up of just about 40 percent women.” (18:57 | Kristina Lawson)

  • “The number one thing that keeps me up at night is worrying about whether our people are well and whether we can improve their mental health and wellness as an organization.” (22:22 | Kristina Lawson)

Links

Connect with Kristina Lawson:

LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/klawson/

Firm Website Bio: https://www.hansonbridgett.com/Our-Attorneys/kristina-d-lawson

 

Connect with Howard Rosenberg:

LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hrosenberg/

Company web profile: https://www.baretzbrunelle.com/howard-rosenberg

 

Connect with Chris Batz:

LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisbatz/ 

LinkedIn Company page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/columbus-street/

Columbus Street website: https://www.columbus-street.com/ 



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