Our Hearts Are Active
CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet
Our circumstances, emotions, and relationships all shape us, but they don't define us. At the center of who we are is something deeper: the heart. In this fourth episode of our series exploring CCEF's seven distinctives, Gunner Gundersen is joined by Jonathan Holmes and Esther Liu to discuss what we mean when we say, "Our hearts are active." Together they explore how Scripture describes the heart as the center of our desires, fears, loves, worship, and choices. How does understanding the heart change the way we pursue personal growth, care for others, and participate in the life of the local...
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We Are Embodied Souls Shaped by a World of Influences
CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet
Our bodies, relationships, culture, suffering, work, spiritual battles, and life experiences all shape us in significant ways. Yet none of these influences alone defines who we are. As image bearers created by God, we are embodied souls who live before him, responding to both blessings and hardships in a world full of competing influences. In this episode, Mike Emlet, Jonathan Holmes, and Gunner Gundersen continue CCEF's series on our seven distinctives by exploring the third distinctive: We are embodied souls shaped by a world of influences. Together they discuss: Why our bodies matter...
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Scripture Comes from the Mouth of God
CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet
CCEF’s second distinctive states: “Scripture comes from the mouth of God.” But what does that mean for everyday ministry, counseling, and relationships? In this episode, Gunner Gundersen is joined by Jonathan Holmes and Aaron Sironi to discuss how God’s Word does more than provide answers—it shapes the way we listen, care, pray, discern, and walk alongside others. Together they explore how Scripture forms our priorities in counseling, helps us understand people, and serves as the lens through which we interpret both life and the world around us. The conversation also considers the...
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The Personal God Gets Personal with Us
CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet
In this first episode of a new seven-part series on CCEF’s distinctives, Gunner Gundersen sits down with Ed Welch and Jonathan Holmes to discuss the first distinctive: “The personal God gets personal with us.” Together, they reflect on how Scripture presents a God who draws near to his people: from the garden of Eden to the incarnation of Christ to the promised future where God will dwell with his people forever. The conversation explores how the Trinity shapes our understanding of relationships, counseling, church life, and personal ministry. These truths help churches to embody a...
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Unity in Marriage: Lessons from Philippians (Part 2)
CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet
Some of the most formative marriage counsel isn't found in a book, a technique, or a counseling session, but rather it comes from watching another couple walk faithfully with Jesus over time. In part two of this conversation, CCEF's Gunner Gundersen and Aaron Sironi explore Paul's surprising strategy in Philippians: imitation. Paul doesn't point to marriage principles but instead insists we keep our eyes on people who imitate Christ. Aaron also shares the rest of his story: how an honest "I don't know" in a conversation with a church elder launched him into biblical counseling, and...
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Unity in Marriage: Lessons from Philippians (Part 1)
CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet
What if some of the most important biblical passages for your marriage don't explicitly talk about husbands and wives? In this episode, Gunner Gundersen and Aaron Sironi explore how the book of Philippians offers a powerful framework for navigating conflict and cultivating unity in marriage. They uncover how the gospel itself shapes the way husbands and wives relate to one another. Aaron shares how lasting change in marriage doesn’t come primarily through techniques but through adopting the mind of Christ: a posture of humility, sacrificial love, and deep attentiveness to one another’s...
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The Art of Mentoring
CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet
What does it mean to mentor someone well? In this episode, Gunner Gundersen sits down with CCEF faculty member Todd Stryd to explore mentoring as a long-term, relational investment that shapes both the mentee and the mentor. Together, they discuss how mentoring provides clarity, fosters growth through both encouragement and critique, and ultimately becomes a place of deep dependence on God. Mentioned in this episode: Registration for our June courses is now open! One key course that features opportunities to grow in mentoring skills is Helping Relationships by Ed Welch. You can learn more and...
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A Conversation with Jonathan Holmes: CCEF's Executive Director
CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet
"We're excited to announce Jonathan Holmes as our new Executive Director! In this episode, Gunner interviews Jonathan about his journey into biblical counseling, his background, and his vision for CCEF. They discuss the importance of counseling in the church, the founding of Fieldstone Counseling, and the future direction of CCEF. from CCEF's Board of Trustees regarding Jonathan Holmes's recent appointment to the role of Executive Director. Mentioned in this episode: Becoming a Refuge is an on-demand teaching series that helps churches respond to domestic abuse. Learn more . In this episode,...
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The Beauty and Burden of Caregiving: A Personal Story (Part 2)
CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet
In this episode of Where Life and Scripture Meet, host Gunner Gundersen continues his conversation with CCEF faculty member Mike Emlet about caring for aging parents. Building on the previous episode, Mike reflects on the blessings and burdens of caring for his mother during her final season of life. Mike shares how he and his wife navigated difficult caregiving decisions, wrestled with their own limitations, and sought wisdom as his mother’s needs increased. Along the way, he reflects on anxiety, fatigue, grief, and the steady presence of God’s grace in the midst of weakness. This...
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The Beauty and Burden of Caregiving: A Personal Story (Part 1)
CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet
In this episode of Where Life and Scripture Meet, host Gunner Gundersen sits down with Dr. Mike Emlet to reflect on his recent experience caring for his aging mother during the final years of her life. Mike shares about his mom, “Mim” — her vibrant faith, her lifelong commitment to the local church, her sense of humor, and her remarkable ministry of handwritten letters. He also opens up about the gradual onset of cognitive decline, the impact of dementia and stroke, and the practical and emotional realities of caregiving. Mike and Gunner discuss the weight and the sweetness of walking...
info_outlineOur circumstances, emotions, and relationships all shape us, but they don't define us. At the center of who we are is something deeper: the heart.
In this fourth episode of our series exploring CCEF's seven distinctives, Gunner Gundersen is joined by Jonathan Holmes and Esther Liu to discuss what we mean when we say, "Our hearts are active." Together they explore how Scripture describes the heart as the center of our desires, fears, loves, worship, and choices. How does understanding the heart change the way we pursue personal growth, care for others, and participate in the life of the local church?
The conversation moves beyond behavior modification to consider how God meets us at the deepest level of who we are. Jonathan, Esther, and Gunner share personal stories of how this distinctive has shaped their own walks with Christ and explain why curiosity, humility, and hope are essential when helping others.
In this episode, you'll learn:
• What CCEF means by "our hearts are active."
• Why biblical change is more than changing outward behavior.
• How desires, fears, and loves reveal what's happening in our hearts.
• Why understanding the heart leads to deeper relationships and wiser care.
• How this distinctive equips churches to cultivate meaningful, gospel-centered conversations.
Mentioned in this episode:
- Register for Dynamics of Biblical Change and our other courses at ccef.org/school
- Learn more about our beliefs and distinctives at ccef.org/about
Related Resources:
- "How do I know when my actions are a result of sin in my heart or because of bodily weakness?" | video by Mike Emlet