Phones, Discipline & Broken Accountability: What Teachers Won't Say

Education in the Bay Area, DW Waters Career Center, Ida Baker award, intensive reading, cell phones in the classroom, discipline, parents, accountability, diversity and equity in education—on this episode of the Chop Shop Show, hosts Daryl “EZDZ” Newton, Greg Doss AKA Ruff, and Waldo “Dade City” Woodard go “back to school” with veteran educators April C. Cobb and Denise Papion to unpack the real narrative of public education in Tampa Bay and beyond. From their roots in community service, The Virgin Islands, Florence Villa, and alternative schools like DW Waters Career Center, April and Denise tell honest stories about founding career centers, stacking certifications, and surviving decades in intensive reading classrooms while staying committed to kids others have written off. They break down what “highly qualified” really looks like, teaching four and five preps in a single room, and why some of the most professionally developed people in the system are still grossly underpaid and overlooked. 

 

The conversation gets raw as they call out “punk ass parents,” entitlement, and a generation of students who believe they have authority over adults because home, community, and policy have failed to enforce real consequences. April and Denise describe today’s child—glued to “crack-level” smart phones, protected by parents who will literally fight over a phone despite legislation banning devices in class, and unprepared for the harsh reality that what’s “play” at 13 becomes assault at 16. They talk about middle schoolers reading on an elementary level, parents who don’t know their own child’s data, and how trauma from their own public school experiences feeds distrust of teachers and schools. The hosts and guests dig into how some coaches cuss kids out while making six figures, how athletics becomes “the way out” while academics are treated as secondary, and how plastic trophies and Friday night lights are prioritized over whether a child can read, write, or think critically. 

 

Throughout the episode, the Chop Shop crew challenges the community’s lowered standards around education, comparing the fear and respect principals commanded in earlier generations with today’s climate where leadership hesitates to enforce laws and expectations. Denise and April explain how they set firm classroom standards, reduce phone conflicts, and keep suspended kids in a safe environment rather than sending them back into more dangerous home situations. They address retirement, union issues, and why many “elder teachers” stay in classrooms long after their years are met because they still feel called to protect and guide other people’s children. As Black History Month and their “28 day program” for diversity and equity in education come up, they highlight how Black history and cultural competency must be embedded all year, not just celebrated in February, and how discipline, expectations, race, and opportunity collide in public schools. 

 

In one powerful stretch, April talks about refusing to abandon students marked by deficits and “indicators designed to make them failures,” choosing instead to keep them in her classroom, advocate against harmful suspensions, and confront parents with the reality of their child’s reading level rather than arguing about attitudes. Denise reflects on teaching multiple generations of the same families, seeing the crack epidemic, technology’s takeover, and the erosion of accountability over her 26 years in the classroom. By the end, this brutally honest episode becomes a masterclass in community responsibility, teacher resilience, and the urgent need to reset expectations for kids, parents, schools, and systems if we want different outcomes for the next generation.