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Taking Out the Garbage // The Holy Spirit and Me, Part 2

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Release Date: 11/09/2025

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So often we look in the mirror and realise, that we’re simply not worthy to come before the throne of grace. And yet, because of Jesus, nothing more needs to be done for you and me to walk boldly before God into His throne room and say ‘Father, I love You; I want to be in Your presence.’ Nothing more needs to be done!

 

Experiencing the Truth

These days we don’t just want to know God – we just don’t want to know Him in our heads but we want to experience God and historically, as we look back, Christians have made, I guess, two extreme mistakes in living their lives out with God. The first is that they focus just on truth – truth as head knowledge, studying the Bible, knowing lots of things, getting doctrine sorted out in their heads but you know, that ends up being really dry and there is no joy or peace in that head knowledge and it becomes like "religion".

The other extreme – right at the other end of the scale, people have said, "You know, we are rejecting that, we are sick of that kind of dry, "head knowledgy" kind of "God" truth. And we want to experience God – it was a reaction to the dryness of the head knowledge. And so those Christians kind of emphasise God’s wonderful spiritual gifts – prophesy and healing and worship and that’s really exciting.

But there is a risk that you do that and you de-emphasise the truth. And that form of Christianity ends up becoming kind of whacky and unreliable and at its worst, emotional manipulation. But somewhere in the middle … somewhere in the middle there is an answer. Somewhere in the middle there is God’s Word and His truth and all of His goodness but also the spiritual reality of experiencing who God actually is in the middle of life.

And you know, when you look at Jesus, Jesus lived in that middle ground. At times in His ministry it was full of emotion; it was from His heart – you know, when He was healing lepers, when He was weeping over Lazarus, when He was weeping over Jerusalem. And at other times in His ministry, He taught on the hard issues – the Sermon on the Mount, the hypocrisy of the religious leaders. Jesus was in the middle ground – He believed in the truth of God’s Word and yet He lived it out in a reality that was, well, so real; so human, so Jesus.

In Matthews Gospel chapter 4, verse 23, it says this:

Jesus went through Galilee teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the good news of the Kingdom and healing every disease and every sickness among the people and so His fame spread through all of Syria.

See, Jesus was into, yes, teaching and preaching and knowing God’s Word. But He was into touching people’s lives and healing them and changing them and bringing them new life as well. And because of both of those things, His fame spread – people came from far and wide.

It’s really funny – if we try and just stick to Biblical truth alone; that sort of very head-knowledge kind of truth, we can end up missing out on who God really is. We can end living out a faith which is "religious", which is rule based, which is critical, which is, I don’t know, it’s not freedom.

On the other hand, if we end up just in the "experience" camp, we can end up right off the rails because God’s truth about who He is and what He wants us to do and how He wants us to live our lives out – God’s truth is so important. And sometimes you will hear a preacher from one camp criticising a preacher from another camp and I’m thinking, "What’s that about?" They stare at each other across this divide and the Jesus that I know; the Jesus that you discover in the Bible was a Jesus who passionately believed in the truth of God’s Word and a Jesus who passionately lived out that truth in such a real way.

This Jesus laid all of His glory aside, even though He was the Son of God, and He walked on this earth as a man and yet He had such a wonderful and powerful and dynamic relationship with His Father in heaven through the Spirit. Jesus used to get up early in the morning and go out on His own and pray because He had this wonderful, real relationship with God in heaven.

Last week we looked at what Jesus said to His disciples on this subject. In John chapter 14, beginning at verse 15, He said:

If you love Me you will keep My commandments and I’ll ask My Dad and He will give you another advocate – this is the Spirit of Truth whom the world cannot receive because it doesn’t see Him and it doesn’t know Him but you know Him because He abides in you. Those who love Me will keep My Word and My Dad will love them and we will come and make our home with them.

Isn’t that beautiful? Being a Christian is loving Jesus and loving Jesus is knowing the truth and obeying Him. And then we experience Him because He says:

If you love Me you will keep My commandments and I will ask Dad and He will give you the Holy Spirit and we will come and live with you.

You will experience God: Father, Son and Holy Spirit dwelling in us through His Spirit – every minute of every hour of every day. Come on, that’s fantastic! And He says:

You in Me and Me in you.

So for Jesus, knowing God is not just knowing the truth, it’s about intimacy as well – a real experience of who God is. But there is a problem with that ... the problem that we have is the problem of sin.

If you love Me you will keep My commandments.

What do we do about that problem? How do we get over that problem, to have this powerful, wonderful relationship with Jesus through the Holy Spirit? We will have a look at that next.

 

I Have a Problem

Well, Jesus promised that following Him and being a Christian wasn’t just about head knowledge of the truth but about an intimate relationship with Him. And in this series called, “The Holy Spirit and Me” we are looking at this Spirit of wisdom and truth, as Jesus called Him; the Holy Spirit and experiencing the joy and the peace in an intimate relationship with God – but our problem, as we looked earlier, is the problem of “If you love Me you will obey Me.”

If you love Me you will obey Me.

And you and I, in our nature are not very good at obeying. And I confess not so many years ago I used to have a problem with this. You know, Christians used words like "sin" and "repent" and "Jesus said repent because the Kingdom of God has come near" – to tell you the truth, to me it was all out of date and anachronistic and old fashioned and rubbish. Come on, what’s this repent and sin business? If it feels good, do it!

We live in an "anything goes kind of world". I mean a woman looks at having an abortion and she says, "Well, it’s my body, it’s my choice!" If it feels good, do it! That’s the world we live in. We are programmed for self-indulgence today. In the same way as our grandparents coming out of a depression and a world war, were programmed for self-discipline and austerity.

On the one hand we want it all, on the other hand we ignore the human cost of this sort of a life – divorce and abortion and marriage breakdown and breakdown in relationships and loneliness and ... you know it’s a law of life that for any relationship to bring satisfaction and joy, the people who participate in that relationship have to pay a price.

Marriage is like that! Before I met my wife Jacqui, I came and went as I pleased and then we went through a courtship and more of my time was involved in relationship with her and we went through an engagement and more of my time was involved and then we were married. And once we were married, I could no longer come and go as I pleased. I could no longer make all of my own decisions. I could no longer spend all of my money on everything that I wanted.

Now that sounds like oppression – oppressed? No way! This man is liberated – liberated to enjoy my life as Jacqui’s husband, in a relationship that is so wonderful with her. But there is a cost – there is a daily cost in that I cannot come and go as I please anymore and that takes some adjustment but that’s the price of a wonderful relationship.

And the same is true with God. A relationship with God follows the same principle but it is hard because all those other things that we want to do is the stuff that God calls "sin" – stealing, pulling other people down, being dishonest, the bad stuff but giving them up can be hard because it’s not in our nature to give up the things that we don’t want to give up because we are selfish.

And the Apostle Paul has exactly this same problem – if you have a Bible, grab it. We are going to Romans chapter 7, beginning at verse 14 through to verse 21. This is what he says:

We know that the law is spiritual but I’m of the flesh – I am sold into slavery under sin. I don’t understand why I do things because I don’t do what I want but I do the very thing that I hate. Now if I do what I don’t want, I agree, the law is good but in fact, it is no longer I that do it but the sin that dwells in me.

For I know that nothing good dwells within me, that’s within my flesh. I can will what is right, I just can’t do it. For I do not do the good I want but the evil that I don’t want is what I do. Now if I do what I don’t want it is no longer I that do it but the sin that dwells in me. So I find this to be a law that when I want to do what is good, evil lies close at hand.

In other words, Paul is torn. He is torn between what he wants and making the sacrifices in living his life for God. Now I praise God that Paul has this same problem because here is a man who wrote thirteen of the twenty-seven books of the New Testament. God had a big role for Paul to play. Halleluiah! – Paul has the same problem that I do and the same problem that you do.

Have you ever felt like Paul? You want to do the right thing but some days we just can’t. What’s the answer? What’s the solution? I remember Nicky Gumble – you may have watched Nicky Gumble or heard him speak on the ALPHA series.

He tells a wonderful story of an old woman whose funeral he had to do and she was a woman who lived on the streets. She carried all her belongings around in plastic bags and she just lived on the streets and she was a street person. And when it came to her funeral he discovered that she was a multi, multi millionaire – she had some great inheritance but she couldn’t come to the point of taking all those bags of rubbish and throwing them away and going and living in that inheritance – and we can be the same.

We have an inheritance – an inheritance in Christ – we are heirs, co-heirs with Him. You believe in Jesus? Then we are one of God’s kids but sometimes we want to hang on to the rubbish, to the stuff. What’s the answer? How do we deal with that? Well, God has an answer and His answer comes in two parts. We are going to look at those in just a moment.

 

God Has the Answer

Well, what is God’s answer? God’s plan as we saw, as Jesus said there, is that He comes and lives with us – lives in us through His Spirit; the Holy Spirit – to have this beautiful and wonderful, intimate relationship with God, day by day. Can I encourage you – if you believe in Jesus and you are not walking in that sort of relationship today – today God is calling you into a deeper, closer more intimate relationship with Him?

But Jesus said that that relationship was for those who loved Him and He would know who loves Him because those who love Him obey Him. Yet here we see the Apostle Paul in Romans chapter 7, disgusted with himself, struggling with his sin. This is what he writes – begins in chapter 7, verse 24:

Wretched man that I am! Who will rescue me from this body to death? Thanks be to God, our Lord Jesus Christ! So then with my mind I am a slave to the law of God but my flesh is a slave to the law of sin. But there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, none – because the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death.

For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh could not do by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and to deal with sin He condemned sin in the flesh so that the just requirements of the law might be fulfilled in us who walk, not according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

In other words, how does God deal with this? God has dealt with my sin and God has dealt with your sin by letting Jesus die on the cross to pay for that. Every relationship has a price. And when we look at us and God it can feel like, in this struggle that Paul has, with his own sinful nature – it can feel like we are the ones who have to pay the price all the time – we’re the ones who have to give stuff up which is hard to give up sometimes.

People who are addicted to anger, people who are addicted to gossip, people who are addicted to sexual immorality find those things hard to give up. And if feels like Jesus is saying ‘Well, if I want to a relationship with Him I have to give those things up and I am the one making the sacrifice.’ Well in a sense that’s true, but Jesus has already made the sacrifice for us. Jesus has already opened the door. Jesus died on that cross for you, Jesus died on the cross for me.

You and I are forgiven if we place our faith in Him – full stop – end of story – no arguments - no more work to be done. Every sin that I have ever committed, every sin that I will commit has been paid for in full by Jesus Christ. That’s the good news – that part is free. That’s the starting point – that’s the beginning of a clean, fresh, new relationship with the slate wiped clean.

But the problem is you and I still want to carry the garbage around. You and I still want to carry the sin around with us because that’s what our nature is. That’s our human nature – that’s exactly what Paul is struggling with in that passage.

I know what is good – I can will to do what is good, I just can’t do it. I end up doing the stuff I don’t want to do and every time I want to do good, says Paul, I find in the law that evil is right at hand.

So there has got to be a second part. We are forgiven, we are set free, nothing more needs to be done for you and I to walk boldly before God into His throne room and say ‘Father I love You, I want to be in Your presence.’ Nothing more needs to be done. But God actually wants to set us free in our lives. God wants us to be free of sin – Jesus said:

I have come to set the captives free.

That’s you, that’s me He is talking about. Halleluiah! He wants to set us free.

But look at it – He talks about here being free from the law of sin and death. “The law of the Spirit of life” – Romans chapter 8, verse 2:

the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death because God has done away with sin through Jesus. Those of us who live according to the flesh set their minds on the flesh but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit.

What does that mean? God is talking here about His Spirit, about Spiritual things. Last week we looked at what Jesus said. He said:

I will not leave you as orphans. I will come to you; I will send the Holy Spirit to be in you and you in Me.

And now Paul is saying, "You know something, if you believe in Jesus and if you know that Jesus died for you and if you are relying on His payment in full on the cross to be forgiven by God, there is something more. Jesus has put His Spirit in you and in me. And now Paul says it is time to walk with the Holy Spirit. Not according to the flesh, not according to that old sinful nature but walk in the Spirit." Well how do you do that?

To set the mind on the flesh is death but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. Those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh.

In other words, if we keep on thinking about those things; if we keep on turning them over in our minds and being angry with that person and not forgiving them or whatever it is that we are addicted to in the flesh, we keep spending our intellectual time, our emotional energy thinking about those things, that’s exactly what we will end up doing.

On the other hand if we take the time that we have to think and we turn that away from those things and we put our focus on Jesus; we put our focus on the Holy Spirit; we put our focus on the Father; we put our focus on His goodness and His love and what He has done for us and what He wants to do for us, we can’t help it. We will end up doing that that stuff; we will end up living life the way God intended us to live it. See people try and change themselves; their behaviour, but at the end of the day, we can’t do that.

As clever as we are; as smart as we are; as much as God put us right on the top of the food chain on this planet, that is beyond our ability. But what is in our ability is to focus on Jesus. I remember Joyce Meyer hearing her once say ‘Where the mind goes, the man follows.’ If I focus my mind on the bad stuff, that’s where I will end up going. If I focus my mind on the good stuff; on Jesus, on the Spirit, that’s where I will end up going.

Think about the good things – think about God – pray, spend time with Him, get into the Bible, be transformed by the renewing of our minds. When we do that we are giving the Holy Spirit control of every part of us, day after day, time after time. We can try to do it on our own but we are doomed to failure because the works of the flesh will overtake us. But when we do this in faith; when we accept the Spirit’s power in faith, in the same way that we have accepted our forgiveness through what Jesus did on the cross, in faith – when we accept God’s goodness and God’s Spirit in faith and we spend time focussing on Him, listening to Him, praying with Him then God is going to change us from the inside out. It’s as sure as God made little green apples; it’s as sure as night follows day, which follows night which follows day.

I believe that Jesus died for me not only so that I could be forgiven but so that I could also be set free day by day by day, from my sin and my failures and that’s the Holy Spirit. Look at verse 11:

But if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of God’s righteousness. And if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit that dwells in you.

That’s God’s promise! Our job isn’t to change ourselves, our job is to get close to Jesus. Our job is to set our minds and hearts on Him, our job is, in the heat of the battle, to give Him a split second if that’s all you have, to involve Him, to give Him room to move, to draw on His power. Our job is to accept His life in faith.

And God will change us. That’s His plan – that’s His heart – that’s His promise. That’s why He sent the Holy Spirit to you and to me!